L2 + R2 = third cross bar

[Seraphyna]

And this is why I wish they would have used a controller setup more like Tera's instead of what they have now. It's utterly useless.

Hold down nothing (OMG what a concept!) for the first setup.
Hold R1 for the second.
Hold L1 for the third.

Three full customized setups should be enough for every job. Add in separate crossbars (like I have to do now because have to switch is a pain in the ***) if you need them. They really screwed the pooch on this.

[Wildsprite]

And this is why I wish they would have used a controller setup more like Tera's instead of what they have now. It's utterly useless.

Hold down nothing (OMG what a concept!) for the first setup.
Hold R1 for the second.
Hold L1 for the third.

Three full customized setups should be enough for every job. Add in separate crossbars (like I have to do now because have to switch is a pain in the ***) if you need them. They really screwed the pooch on this.

slight problem with this, the controller already does things without pressing any triggers, d-pad(crosspad to some of you) selects things on your screen. and the buttons also do things like auto attack, jump, bring up map, back

your idea is nice but it wouldnt work unless another button was used to allow those functions

[Seraphyna]

slight problem with this, the controller already does things without pressing any triggers, d-pad(crosspad to some of you) selects things on your screen. and the buttons also do things like auto attack, jump, bring up map, back

your idea is nice but it wouldnt work unless another button was used to allow those functions

You have obviously never played Tera, thus do not know how the controller setup works just fine with the map, inv, jump, and the like.

[Wildsprite]

You have obviously never played Tera, thus do not know how the controller setup works just fine with the map, inv, jump, and the like.

I'll have to look into that. as of last time I went to try it I didnt have the room to install it. but I'll be getting another hard drive soon so I'll check it out after that

[Aeliott]

Once you get into the habit of doing the R1 + [button] shortcut for anything other than moving to the next page in a cycle it's fine. And honestly L2 + R2 would just confuse me more. You only need to hold R1 for a split second, and doing it mid-GCD is the best way to do it. In fact playing a SMN/SCH (especially the latter) you pretty much have to learn it that way or else slow down your effectiveness. Unless you can very quickly and precisely tap R1 the exact number of times to shuffle to the bar you want.

[evilsohn]

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Unless you can very quickly and precisely tap R1 the exact number of times to shuffle to the bar you want.

You can change which skills You scroll through with R1 and wich are ignored in the options.
You can also change the rotation of this for weapon sheathed and drawn seperately.

You could put crossbars with porting, riding, and social emote stuff on Your weapon sheathed rota, while only having combat related stuff on Your weapon drawn rotation.
There is a good youtube video that instructs You how to do so, don't remember the link though, sorry.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

Unfortunately due to ps3 limitations holding l2 +r2 will switch to a different hotbar and not actually add a 3rd hotbar in between the ones we already have. I dont like having to switch between hotbars during a fight. I want to see all my coolodowns on one hotbar. I use a 360 controller on pc, I wish we could at least get it with all 24 skills for L2, R2, L2+R2 shown on screen at the same time on the pc UI. Please dont hold me back because of ps3 memory limitations.

[Nathan061111]

like the sound of the OP

[Versiroth]

I play with a 360 controller on PC (Mouse and Keyboard felt weirdly sluggish in this game for me...). As a Dragoon, I use about 24 buttons, though only 16 regularly. The abilities that are situational go into the second bar and I simply press R1, use the ability, then R1 to go back to my main bar. This can be done while on the run in a split second. I also changed it in the settings so only these two bars will show up when my weapon is drawn. This way, I don't switch to bars that are useless for combat.

[EvokerKeii]

I play with a 360 controller on PC (Mouse and Keyboard felt weirdly sluggish in this game for me...). As a Dragoon, I use about 24 buttons, though only 16 regularly. The abilities that are situational go into the second bar and I simply press R1, use the ability, then R1 to go back to my main bar. This can be done while on the run in a split second. I also changed it in the settings so only these two bars will show up when my weapon is drawn. This way, I don't switch to bars that are useless for combat.

This is pretty much how I do it.