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    Alvarion Lazuul
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    Can I please have my abilities back?

    Seriously, I really just wish Paladin had the utility it once had. I miss Holy Succor and Divine Veil. It could breath life into a very basic sword and board job.
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    This. Seriously. All PLD is now really is 123 and defensive cooldowns.
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    And how did Holy Succur and Divine Veil make PLD something other than "a basic sword and board job"? I wouldn't regard those abilities as any more sophisticated than the current basic pair of combos and other various abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    And how did Holy Succur and Divine Veil make PLD something other than "a basic sword and board job"? I wouldn't regard those abilities as any more sophisticated than the current basic pair of combos and other various abilities.
    Divine Veil

    Blocks all physical attacks and grants a healing over time effect to all party members within range when Cure and Cura spells are cast on you by other players.
    Holy Succor

    Restores HP of target. When cast on another player, you also heal 50% of the amount restored.
    I want you to point out, why these wouldn't be benefitial and provide a slight bit more complexity to PLD.

    Currently all PLD has is defensive cooldowns "Block Rate Incease" "Defence Increase" and "Cover".

    Aegis Boon

    Recover behind the safety of your shield, increasing defense against frontal attacks and converting blocked damage into HP.
    At the very least can be considered to be like 'Bloodbath' from Marauder, but it's still not the same.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 12-04-2013 at 07:36 AM.

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    I see the beneficial-ness. I don't see the "complexity."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I see the beneficial-ness. I don't see the "complexity."
    A choice over healing yourself/your party members of Flash for enmity isn't a choice worth having, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    A choice over healing yourself/your party members of Flash for enmity isn't a choice worth having, apparently.
    Once you have enough aggro, the choice is pretty clear. I stone skin/cure team mates while tanking. It makes me feel pro. xD
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisCaelus View Post
    Once you have enough aggro, the choice is pretty clear. I stone skin/cure team mates while tanking. It makes me feel pro. xD
    I hope you're kidding. The paltry damage (because tanks do paltry dps) lost is worth more than a cure for 200 or 300 and the stoneskin worth 3-450 on most DD's. Not to mention, so expensive on small mp pools.
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    Shield Lob (Can change red text to Tomahawk and it will work perfectly Warriors)
    /macroicon "Shield Lob"
    /ac "Shield Lob" <t>
    /marking attack1 <t>

    Better "macro switching", give it a read: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivhotbars

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    I'm making a Warrior because it feels more fun, good thing they share myth accessories and allagan.
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    Doctor Mog
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    I made a video on exactly this in 1.20 recording what we lost that patch for abilities.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ynVbZMcj38

    Look at all the utility we lost...
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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 12-04-2013 at 08:06 AM.

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