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    Quote Originally Posted by CalvatE View Post
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    Great post
    Even though, Titan HM is much more of a pain with a SCH imo. Constant fairy placement and a much harder time with stomps than WHM.
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    Player NeruMew's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    Great post
    Even though, Titan HM is much more of a pain with a SCH imo. Constant fairy placement and a much harder time with stomps than WHM.
    What about the fairy placement? I've never had an issue, only reason why I don't love scholar more is because in order to maximize your output you need to control your pet though, which I dislike, specially wihtout the macros that are being added in 1.1.

    On another note, I havent personally played WHM, but to top off a tank FAST you need lustrate as scholar, with it, you'll do it just as well as a WHM, good thing about Lustrate is that it is off GCD so you can combine it like this forexample for a extreme situation on a high hp tank (this is overkilling it btw, unless you're like on twintania maybe XD or somewhere where you know the tank is about to take a big big hit) but yeah -> Lustrate->Adloquium->Lustrate->Physick->Adloquium/Physick if necessary, that is a TON of Hps, like it's been said before, you must not forget the shielding provided by SCH. While their shields are great you also find yourself in the position where maybe recasting a shield spells gets sucky if you havent consumed the old shield (cause as we can all imagine it is not utmost efficient) but it works anyway :P (usually will hurt you when or if spamming Succor).

    A last thing, you should not have any MP issues whatsoever, unless you either are Sacred Soil or Lustrate trigger happy or simply forget to use your Aetherflow on CD (you should be doing it, unless there isnt much to do and in all honestly casting either of your 3 stacks consumers is a compelte waste). In order to make sure your Lustrate is up for any emergency situation I like to keep one stack until Aetherflow is back up, or about to be.

    Anyway, I don't know why I just went completely off topic and said all that but, Yay WHM! :3 I am leveling mine still but I have a feeling I'll prefer it, though I know I'll miss some of the scholar perks.

    P.S.: Fairy auto-heal while on Cleric Stance dpsing is the best *-*
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeruMew View Post
    What about the fairy placement?
    You have to remember to place her back if she gets knocked back by landslide and it can happen quite frequently.
    Unless of course you don't place her but I always do

    Coming from a main whm who switched to sch recently, I still feel a bit helpless at times when shit hits the fan without me having any control over it. Such as big spikes on the tank in Caduceus. The hardest thing was to start to trust my fairy (when I am not manually casting embrace). It's more psychological than anything else. I just played WHM too long and have yet to fully trust the SCH mechanics. They ARE super powerful though. Especially with high base crit and good CD management. It's just less forgiving if you (or someone else) makes mistakes or wrong decisions.
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    Player NeruMew's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    You have to remember to place her back if she gets knocked back by landslide and it can happen quite frequently.
    Unless of course you don't place her but I always do

    Coming from a main whm who switched to sch recently, I still feel a bit helpless at times when shit hits the fan without me having any control over it. Such as big spikes on the tank in Caduceus. The hardest thing was to start to trust my fairy (when I am not manually casting embrace). It's more psychological than anything else. I just played WHM too long and have yet to fully trust the SCH mechanics. They ARE super powerful though. Especially with high base crit and good CD management. It's just less forgiving if you (or someone else) makes mistakes or wrong decisions.
    Well, I haven't found the need to place it on obey yet, I mean, I dont heal coil, and it hasn't presented an issue healnig neither Titan nor dungeons for me yet (as in she moves backs on her own if she's on her active stance, and she nevers get knocked off, if she does she flies back up anyway). I kinda trust the AI enough because I am too lazy to "micro-manage" it (specially without macros for pet spells/abilities) and because it hasn't presented to be too much of an issue on that content, I like that she tops off other players that may not be missing much HP, while I can be busy doing something else (or being even more lazy!).

    One question though I have never checked it myself, but does it still cast Embrace (normal heal) while on obey on its own? Or do I have to command it myself?

    Only problem with it being on the active stance is that sometimes (almost all of the time) they waste the CDs xD, but then again, meh. :P I can see CDs and special abilities needed to be timed in coil though, or well, alteast it's obvious that used at the right time could help a lot more. But anyway. I prefer the dark arts nowadays :3 (I've also mained a lot of healers on other games)

    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    Damage mitigation scholar brings to this fight can't be touched by WHM. I'd much rather see a good scholar healing in Titan than a good WHM.
    This is true, though I wouldn't go as far on that preferring part, since b oth can get the job done, and if using two healers a combination of them is best.
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