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    Player
    GilbertLapine's Avatar
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    Malcolm Quill
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    See, this is what I want to happen to Coil...let us keep running it, but lock out loot once we get something in a Turn.

    Even if its still a weekly loot-lock out, I'd be happy. I just want to run it.
    Good idea, but you're a bit off. This is why 'elitists' freak whenever anyone mentions a loot lockout -- because THIS is what they think it is. A true loot lockout, which is what I'm in favor of, would lock you upon rolling, not upon receiving an item, so it still paces the content as intended.
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    Errors Phynrir
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    What do you think the likelihood of a hour lock out will be based on the what has already been released? Just curious.

    SE is looking at a much larger picture on gear saturation on each server than the vocal group here on the forums. Most of us here want thing now, now, now. I don't quite understand the highly aggravated comments I see here sometimes though. I get the, "Hey listen to me because I'm important and I have to share my dissatisfaction!" What irks me is the Nostradamus predictions of content will be crap before it is even released.

    There is content currently in the game that I'm not a big fan of, I personally just don't do that content. /shrug
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    N'hara Tia
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    Crystal Tower has a 2 hour time limit per run. Wouldn't expect the looting lockout to last longer than that.

    I say this because I vaguely recall hearing that players will probably receive one piece of loot per run.
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Hopefully it's a week long lockout, just like coil.
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    Kool Kat
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    Is it 1 peice of gear per xxx hours? so max gear you could get from CT is 1?
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    Akira Ono
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    Is it 1 peice of gear per xxx hours? so max gear you could get from CT is 1?
    Yes. Plus both tome types when completed.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Can already see it now. Player gets loot ---> drops because they have no further use of CT outside of the first clear.

    Ontop of the fact that it's going to be a mess in general since it's duty finder.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Can already see it now. Player gets loot ---> drops because they have no further use of CT outside of the first clear.

    Ontop of the fact that it's going to be a mess in general since it's duty finder.
    This already happens all the time in World of Warcraft, and it didn't cause a problem because others would come in as replacements. In general, each player will want to take a whack at each boss for the loot, so those who drop at Boss2 will mean he was a replacement at Boss3 in a previous run, overall you will still have the same number of players participating.

    Towards the end of the content patch when most people have only the one or two pieces they still desperately need, you will have people ignoring later bosses, but that will happen regardless of how the loot is locked out. When they find no meaning in doing something, they will simply not do it.

    So in the end, this loot lockout system will not cause parties to fall apart, in fact, it helps with parties that do fall apart to quickly find replacements because people are entirely willing to join in-progress Crystal Tower parties. On the other hand, nobody wants to join in-progress Binding Coil parties because they would miss out on the loot from earlier parties (unless they no longer need anything from it, of course).

    The fact that each full party in CT gets their own loot, however, means that it is possible to sell CT runs with a premade. You are just not able to guarantee 100% wins on all bosses. But you can still sell gear.
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    Sayura Ava
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    This already happens all the time in World of Warcraft, and it didn't cause a problem because others would come in as replacements.
    You're assuming the Duty Finder is going to find a replacement. When someone drops in WP/AK the duty finder almost never replaces them and we have to quit/start over.
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    You're assuming the Duty Finder is going to find a replacement. When someone drops in WP/AK the duty finder almost never replaces them and we have to quit/start over.
    It will replace them if you wait long enough. The thing is, people have to check the "Join Party in Progress" option when they queue for them to join you.
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