PLD Negotiation (Vs WAR)

[Devils]

oh, well, I never saw anything about overpower gaining a wrath stack, just increased enmity. even if.. if you just stood there spamming overpower for wrath, you'd run out of TP way too fast to do any good in any 'lengthy' battle, so me personally, don't see the point in that

On AOE packs sometimes it is kind of difficult (maybe or annoying) to have to switch off your AOE to do an ability that will keep your stacks up. But with the increased enmity from Overpower then I would feel more comfortable leaving the AOE spam since I will know I have hate. Because it is very simple to lose hate on an AOE situation to very well geared DPS when you stop overpowering and flashing to keep you stacks up. Have a wrath mechanism in on of our AOE abilities would be nice, but far from necessary.

[VoxInaBox]

This has been Updated.

[JeTaisNoobie]

And to think he spent all that time typing that lengthy, pointless wall of text, all the while thinking he's on the board of developers. Funny stuff.

[Kal-El]

Hallowed Ground should last 30s with a 31s cooldown.

Just to balance things out. >.>

[TouchandFeel]

While I do think that PLD could definitely use some tweaks, as does WAR and a number of other classes/jobs, asides from maybe fixing the long Spirits animation I can't really agree with your suggestions.

[Baci]

You are still teribly wrong. "We'll allow" there is absolutely nothing you have to allow. Because, gladly, you arent working for SE

[Lemon8or]

Now you're asking for Paladin's QoL fixes while warrior is getting the buffs they need to do end-game? Try that when we get the QoL fixes like Foresight basically still does nothing, Unchained is still overshadowed by Inner Beast and heck, Steel Cyclone, Mercy Stroke is still very hard to hit especially against BLM who does immense burst damage. Like many people have said: Good thing you don't have the final say. You're obviously too biased with Paladin and just like to stay above other tanks to feel like you are wanted instead of competing against them head to head in a battle of skills.

[HunkyJimpjorps]

It's so cute that you think you're in a position to negotiate.

[Brevitic]

Patches will continue until morale improves.

[Reynhart]

You can't count 25% HP due to damage mitigation AND 25% healing bonus for Shield Oath
So it's not 25% HP + 25% healing bonus > 25% HP + 20% healing bonus

It's 25% HP (Shield Oath) < 25% HP (Defiance HP bonus) + 20% healing (Defiance healing buff, no Rage V needed in 2.1)

So, Leiron's calculation was wrong and he should apologise to VoxInaBox.