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    Evasion tank concept, branching from Musketeer.

    So as most people could agree, the likely first job musketeer gets will be a form of DD.

    I am looking past that... and considering the role of the 2nd job.


    New FFXIV tank concept: Cannoneer/Engineer -- Branches from Musketeer.
    (other variations that had been considered were Mystic Knight or "Fixer", but the above may be more role appropriate.)


    This is strongly based on former MMO ideas, but could be fun if implemented properly.

    Weapon: Low accuracy, high yield gun. As long as enemy is nearby (say, within dragoon spear range), accuracy is optimal.

    Armor: MagiTek adaptation, allows user to use magic to summon direct evasion enhancements to existing gear.

    Magic: Able to use En-magic. Able to cast Healing-over-time spells for additional enmity.

    Advantages: Ranged options as a blink tank.
    Disadvantages: Growth to an optimal state is slower than other jobs, and may be costly due to more used consumeables.

    Specials: May have unforeseen skills tied to Magitek, such as versatile teleportation abilities. (summon party members to self?)

    I know this idea is rough around the edges, but maybe other folks have ideas on how it could be improved upon?
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 12-03-2013 at 07:29 PM.

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    I just can't see any character wielding a gun as your front line defense from an enemy. Unless they are rolling a mini cannon around, it is just too weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    I just can't see any character wielding a gun as your front line defense from an enemy. Unless they are rolling a mini cannon around, it is just too weird.
    Check out the blunderbuss. Or they could just go full flat out equilibrium on mobs (look up your typical anime game on how logic flies out of the window on this concept).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    Check out the blunderbuss. Or they could just go full flat out equilibrium on mobs (look up your typical anime game on how logic flies out of the window on this concept).
    Sort of a shotgun concept, more effective at close range. Me likey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    I just can't see any character wielding a gun as your front line defense from an enemy. Unless they are rolling a mini cannon around, it is just too weird.
    Was done in AO.



    Also, since when is whimsy such as a large firearm discouraged in RPGs, or FF?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post

    Also, since when is whimsy such as a large firearm discouraged in RPGs, or FF?[/IMG]
    Well... you asked for an evasion tank so...

    Think flat out Gun Kata with dual Flintlocks is already enough... mearlwyb does it (someone find the video).
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    The evasion tank is called Ninja. He shall make his triumphant return. Rejoice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    The evasion tank is called Ninja. He shall make his triumphant return. Rejoice.
    right. except Ninja shouldn't be a tank. see what I did there?


    that being said, my favourite - to heal - in SWTOR are vanguards




    yupp yupp

    so give me that gunnytank!
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    Last edited by amnie; 12-04-2013 at 09:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amnie View Post
    right. except Ninja shouldn't be a tank. see what I did there?
    The ninja can be whatever he wants because he's a freakin' ninja.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    The ninja can be whatever he wants because he's a freakin' ninja.
    well yes of course, but I just always found the topic of especially the FFXI ninja to be highly hilarious. even in this topic someone complained Ninja was not the 'greatest' tank in that game. well d'oh.

    that being said it's always fun to experiment and 'anything goes'
    in tsw I tanked with my assault rifle for a while. the base skills had no extra aggro skills at all. I only had the 'side skills' (not related to a specific weapon). it worked pretty well once I had people convinced that yes, I would be able to keep the aggro
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