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    Desandra Daemondred
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    Who is this game targeting?

    I am starting to wonder. I am a gamer with a few RL friends that also game and we move from game to game together. I did not think I was out of SE target market but I am starting to wonder... Who puts a system in place like this, and does not let you use it while playing with your friends. I realize he says 2.2, but come on. This was the one thing I was really looking forward to in patch 2.1, and I will never use it. It is really disappointing.

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    Q: Will you be able to use the Duty Roulette when forming a party with 2 or 3 members?
    A: We’ll be improving the Duty Finder extensively for 2.1, but I’m afraid the ability to participate in parties will take until 2.2.
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    Olan Durai
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    The game is probably trying to target guys who have never played any MMORPG other than FF11, because that's likely the experience level of the developers.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    The whole point of the Duty Roulette is to add incentive for people to help out with lower level/already-cleared stuff. Making people solo queue means more tanks and healers available.
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    Neon Sea
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    I think joining as a group defeats the purpose of this. It is meant to help people advance who are at lower levels, not go in groups of 2 or 3 where you would likely carry someone through a dungeon.
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    So, because of one of the new, optional things, you aren't part of the "target market" anymore?

    I can bet a glass of water there are more people bummered about Vanity not making it into 2.1 but basically confirmed for 2.2, or about the current CT ingress limitations. I'm not sure if they are all gonna jump off the boat, though.

    Also, what Estellios and NeonC said.
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    Aylaine Gray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
    The game is probably trying to target guys who have never played any MMORPG other than FF11, because that's likely the experience level of the developers.
    Lol gg. Funnily enough, a lot of the amazing ideas and concepts in 11 (my opinion) didn't make it into this game, yet many of the lesser, restrictive tendencies of SE themselves are slowly beginning to creep up, with a overshaking of WoW sprinkled on top. x.x
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    Noel Kreiss
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    The Duty: Not sure what's wrong. We need this system because lower level dungeon are going to die.
    We need random so:
    New players can continue.
    Other people can level alts.
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    Einsof Zeb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
    The game is probably trying to target guys who have never played any MMORPG other than FF11, because that's likely the experience level of the developers.
    If that's what they're going for, they're doing a pretty poor job of it. ARR more or less is an anti-FFXI according to Yoshi P. himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    The whole point of the Duty Roulette is to add incentive for people to help out with lower level/already-cleared stuff. Making people solo queue means more tanks and healers available.
    That is not the point for me, so i guess it not the whole point. The point for me was to provide more dungeons that offer rewards for completion that actually benefit my characters. You know... Do some changed up content and actually be rewarded for it. If two or three of us decide to do dungeons I guess that 3rd and/or 4th person that could have been helped won't be, cause I will choose playing with my friends over increased rewards, but I should not have to.
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    In all honesty the inability to queue with more than one guy in Duty Roluette is probably some kind of technical limitation, just like the inability to send tells while in a duty finder instance is probably technical too. That said the technical problems of this game tend to be so absurd, it'd be easier to cope to just think the developers are insane, since otherwise it's hard to put your head around the concept that a modern game apparently doesn't have the ability to queue more than one guy in a random queue, or the ability to send tells while in an instance.
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