Myth Caps

[Mitski]

it makes perfect sense.. the OP suggests making the rollover keep up to 2000 points.. that means you can cancel your sub for months, resub for a couple of days, burn 13 minute WP and have the same number of myth items as someone who was playing the whole time. thats just silly.

Un-sub/re-sub issue was discussed previously on this page, and there are several good solutions; suspended accumulation for inactive accounts and lowering the cap to a more reasonable amount than 2000 (3-4 weeks worth of points).

Switching to a levequest-style system wouldn't hurt anyone, but it would benefit many.

[Hanabira]

Un-sub/re-sub issue was discussed previously on this page, and there are several good solutions; suspended accumulation for inactive accounts and lowering the cap to a more reasonable amount than 2000 (3-4 weeks worth of points).

Switching to a levequest-style system wouldn't hurt anyone, but it would benefit many.

what would be the point though, if you dont have time to play, you dont have time to play. leve system hardly equates to making it easier for people to earn ilvl90 gear in ilvl55 content.

But seriously though, why should people who actually have time to play not be able to make any more progress than someone who doesn't?

[Hanabira]

So you dont think anyone would be discouraged because they have tons of time to play but cant progress because this guy doesnt have time for a MMO? thats not a solution at all. sooner or later people realize that their extra time is wasted and they quit. we already have plenty of people who say they log in to cap and thats it for the week because the game is designed not to have to spend any time. a proper solution is some kind of middle ground where people who have no time can get good gear, but people who have the time should always have something to work towards and they dont. theres a difference between limiting to slow down the rate of which people blow through content, and limiting people because of other people's time.

Because we're all paying the same price to play?

What does this have to do with anything? We all pay the same price so we should be able to progress as much as we want without being limited by other people. If i go to an all you can eat buffet, should i only be allowed to eat a small salad because thats all the skinny vegan chick ate? but we paid the same price!

[ashikenshin]

The amount of playtime required to obtain the tomes would be exactly the same. Your argument makes no sense.

the key is that he said "actually play the game to get large amounts of them" keyword being large. If you want large amounts of tomestones then you have to play every week.

[Lurkios]

the key is that he said "actually play the game to get large amounts of them" keyword being large. If you want large amounts of tomestones then you have to play every week.

And what reason is there to differentiate between a player who plays for 10 hours every week and one who plays for 20 hours every other?

[Hanabira]

And what reason is there to differentiate between a player who plays for 10 hours every week and one who plays for 20 hours every other?

I work a full time job, im working on a masters degree where im always knee deep in papers, i keep a social life and a family life.. yet i still have time to cap myths and run my coil static a few times a week. If you have 10 hours a week, you cant realistically expect to be as geared as someone who can give more time to it. Any system who allows someone who can play 1 hour a day to be remotely as geared as someone who plays 8 a day is a failure imo because there is no reason to put in any effort outside of that 1 hour.

[FelisC]

And what reason is there to differentiate between a player who plays for 10 hours every week and one who plays for 20 hours every other?

Decreased player interaction with the game is the issue. The further spread out these times are, the more fragmented the playerbase becomes.

I think we all see the wisdom in SOME time-based delineation and it must be set somewhere. If it was increased to a monthly cap, there would still be players who would want it stretched because of their own commitments/obligations that prevent them from reaching it in that time period. A week to reach the cap is not restrictive to the vast majority of players.

[ashikenshin]

I play about 35 hours every week, yet I earn the same as the 10 hours every week guy. Do you see me complain?

[Andevom]

I don't have an issue with the caps being rolled over into the next week. Just like someone who can effectively level a craft from 1-50 super fast using stocked up leve allowances, so should a player be able to stock up on tome chances.

The adjustment wouldn't be that necessary if players didn't flat out refuse to do content with those that don't have the same nice shiny things they do. I can't tell you how many AK runs I've "joined in progress" because someone left due to some of the party members not having a relic weapon.

[Ri_ri]

Another horse that hasn't beaten enough, I'd rather have Coil lockouts removed so I could play it more.