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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblit View Post
    I use legacy controls but I'm still able to strafe around(while facing the target 100%) to get from the rear to flank or visa versa. Just hold the right click mouse button to keep your character facing the target while strafing with A or D keys.
    this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

    and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE
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    Oblit Sarabi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naryoril View Post
    this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

    and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE
    Well you are not doing it right or your mouse' sensitivity settings is low. I tried it out circling around the training dummy and auto-attacks were still going off at the same speed as if I was standing still facing the training dummy.
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naryoril View Post
    this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

    and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE
    I dodge perfectly using lock on toggling, as for when you are on the move, other than face target when skilling, manually facing the target, or locking on, you wont get that with legacy controls.

    Legacy controls strength is no backing up , but you lose auto attacks while turning away, locking on removes this weakness by using it in tandem with your playstyle, if you prefer to always be facing the target then standard with auto face off is the best youll get.
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    Oblit Sarabi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblit View Post
    I use legacy controls but I'm still able to strafe around(while facing the target 100%) to get from the rear to flank or visa versa. Just hold the right click mouse button to keep your character facing the target while strafing with A or D keys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naryoril View Post
    this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

    and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE
    Here is a video demonstration showing what separates a great MNK apart from good MNKs.:

    MNK auto-attacks while strafing in legacy controls.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLe9G7uDWM
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblit View Post
    Here is a video demonstration showing what separates a great MNK apart from good MNKs.:

    MNK auto-attacks while strafing in legacy controls.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLe9G7uDWM
    And now with controller please~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    And now with controller please~
    A great MNK will not use a controller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblit View Post
    A great MNK will not use a controller.
    Yeah I must really suck, I don't see whats so great about holding the right mouse button while moving anyone should be able to do it.
    The only problem I see is that legacy with controller is kinda awkward when it comes to strafing, I have to constantly use lock-on, it works but it's a hassle because the camera position goes bonkers.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 12-04-2013 at 09:07 AM.

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    Renault Cathetel
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Yeah I must really suck, I don't see whats so great about holding the right mouse button while moving anyone should be able to do it.
    The only problem I see is that legacy with controller is kinda awkward when it comes to strafing, I have to constantly use lock-on, it works but it's a hassle because the camera position goes bonkers.
    While that "great Monks don't use controllers" trolling attempt by the person above was indeed smug as all hell and not necessary, I unfortunately do not believe you can do what is being done on that video with the gamepad. I was trying some different ways to get around having to use lock-on while playing on my 360 controller and couldn't see any method for doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon View Post
    While that "great Monks don't use controllers" trolling attempt by the person above was indeed smug as all hell and not necessary, I unfortunately do not believe you can do what is being done on that video with the gamepad. I was trying some different ways to get around having to use lock-on while playing on my 360 controller and couldn't see any method for doing so.
    Oh I did not say I can do that with a controller, as of now it's not possible to strafe without lock-on on legacy with a controller.
    I was just trying to say it's a very simple thing to do with mouse and keyboard and does not require a "video guide" per se.
    Hopefuly they fix the camera going in a really awkward position when using the lock-on funktion with L3 since they did mention that they do something about the camera on legacy controlls.
    Maybe there's an easy solution with X-padder to make it work without limiting the keybinds too much... I'll give it a try tomorrow.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 12-04-2013 at 10:52 AM.

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    Ruby Corona
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    And now with controller please~
    Well for a controller what I do is simply Lock on the target (press the analog stick) as tilting the left analog stick acts the same way as the video, the lock on also is a lot better than it was in 2.0 as you can zoom in a bit farther, an extra button to lock on and lock off isn't hard once you get used to it.
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