Monks, Legacy Type Controls and Auto Attack

[Naryoril]

I'm playing monk and i'd like to use legacy type controls, since it makes avoiding AoEs easier. But if i switch to legacy controls i won't auto attack the monster while circling around it. I noticed that auto attack only works if you are looking at the monster.

Using standard type controls i use A and D in combination with turning the camera with the right mouse button to circle around an enemy. That way i always look at the monster and auto attacks are performed.

But when using legacy type controls and doing the same, the character doesn't look at the monster and thus doesn't perform auto attacks.

You can try this by attacking some random monster and just cricling around it, not using any skill and watch the auto attacks you do. Yes, you do one from time to time with legacy controls, but not nearly as often as it should be (and is with standard controls).

Does anyone have a solution to this? What do i need to do to mix legacy type controls with auto attacks while moving around an enemy?

[Akirakogami]

Interesting. as a bard my autoattacks seem to always go off at regular intervals and i wouldn't worry much if they didn't.

As a monk however your damage depends alot more on AA because of the speed boost from greased lightning. Sounds terrifying! you could lose alot of damage without even knowing it! D:

[Naryoril]

that's why i still use standard type controls, even though it's more difficult to avoid AoEs that way.

It isn't an issue for almost any other class either, since if you always stay at the same side of a monster and don't move much you'll always face the monster. So bards and tanks aren't affected, i don't know how much dragoons move around. But as a monk you constantly run from the back to the flank and the other way around, thus it's an issue if you don't auto attack during this movement.

[Genesiser]

I'm not sure how it is on ps3, but if you are playing on the pc, why can't you just hold on right mouse button and then strafe out of aoes by hitting 'a' or 'd'? It's very simple to do and if you are losing out a lot on your auto attacks the other way, then you are losing a lot of dps. Maybe try getting used to the other way?

[Naryoril]

I'm not sure how it is on ps3, but if you are playing on the pc, why can't you just hold on right mouse button and then strafe out of aoes by hitting 'a' or 'd'? It's very simple to do and if you are losing out a lot on your auto attacks the other way, then you are losing a lot of dps. Maybe try getting used to the other way?

That's what i do, but this way you lose a bit of time turning the camera and/or you don't take the shortest way out of the AoE. But i think it's still preferable to losing out on the damage.

With legacy controls you just need to press S and you take the shortest way out of the AoE immediately (assuming it's an AoE based on the boss), thus it's easier to avoid the AoE.

[Cynric]

Ah I see you have the main problem using legacy controls. Here are some tips to help.

When using skills auto face enemy. Make sure this is enabled. At GL 3 you have less than 2.5 seconds to skill. You auto attacl every 3 ish to 4 seconds. Every skill will help with an auto attack.

Next get used to toggling lock on in between escaping AoEs and attacking. While locked on you will always be facing enemies so you will lose no damage.

Finally when fighting large monsters where lock on is an issue. After a skill simply hit w or up and face towards the monster to allow the auto attack. This will sometimes lose damage if your reflexes arent good.

[Oblit]

I use legacy controls but I'm still able to strafe around(while facing the target 100%) to get from the rear to flank or visa versa. Just hold the right click mouse button to keep your character facing the target while strafing with A or D keys.

[Naryoril]

I use legacy controls but I'm still able to strafe around(while facing the target 100%) to get from the rear to flank or visa versa. Just hold the right click mouse button to keep your character facing the target while strafing with A or D keys.

this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE

[Oblit]

this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE

Well you are not doing it right or your mouse' sensitivity settings is low. I tried it out circling around the training dummy and auto-attacks were still going off at the same speed as if I was standing still facing the training dummy.

[Cynric]

this does NOT make your character face the enemy in legacy controls. try it out on a random enemy without using skills and just circling around an enemy.

and @cynric: i'm not talking about the time when i stand still, but about the time when i'm on the move. And if i use lock on, i might as well use standard controls, because you will lose time when you have to disengage the lock first before escaping an AoE

I dodge perfectly using lock on toggling, as for when you are on the move, other than face target when skilling, manually facing the target, or locking on, you wont get that with legacy controls.

Legacy controls strength is no backing up , but you lose auto attacks while turning away, locking on removes this weakness by using it in tandem with your playstyle, if you prefer to always be facing the target then standard with auto face off is the best youll get.