Race to 50

[MagusCreed]

I've been jumping around from craft to craft getting all of the useful level 15 skills. I've been getting Goldsmith up slowly but surely and I had a look at the Levequests Goldsmith can do for multiple returns.

For the most part, the Levequests for Goldsmith look INCREDIBLY easy to do with just a few materials. Not only that, but the materials look to be dirt cheap as well.

Am I missing anything here or is Goldsmith the easiest Level 50 you can do? Or is crafting just (obviously) getting easier and easier the more cross class skills you're able to use?

[Githiun]

I don't knwo about GSM being easier or harder, I don't have that one leveled. But yes, it should be easier as you level with cross class. Utilizing the lvl 15 skills will make leveling very easy especially if you max out weaver for Careful Syn II. That makes leveling seriously easy.

Lastly don't forget about experience. You know your way around, you know leve's now, mats etc. Bound to increase speed due to that

[Simaril]

I look at the triple turn ins...

For example; GSM malachite jewlery is pretty easy - a silver ingot, 2 malachites, and then the piece of jewelery (craft 4 things to have a finsihed product). Alc and Cul are easier - often requiring nothing but the final product. Ltw, and Crp have some easy ones too (lumber or leather). Arm, and Wvr are the opposite sometimes requiring 9+ crafted items to get the completed product.

Hardest to easiest IMO: Arm > Wvr >>> Bsm, Gsm > Ltw > Crp > Alc, Cul

Ltw could be much harder since mats are a bit tougher, and some others might be too... Armorer might not actually be that difficult, it's just a lot of steps, and the least(?) useful. If I would just use the lazy synth for thread wvr might be easier?

[Skies]

What in your sweet heaven makes you think Cul is anywhere near easy??

Every recipe for triple turn-ins is 6 materials, at least half of them will have 2 to 3 of those materials being processed, meaning they come from another 1 or 2 other materials themselves.

[MagusCreed]

What in your sweet heaven makes you think Cul is anywhere near easy??

Every recipe for triple turn-ins is 6 materials, at least half of them will have 2 to 3 of those materials being processed, meaning they come from another 1 or 2 other materials themselves.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with Skies on that. I bit the bullet and it cost me just over 100k gil on the Market Board to get Steady Hand II. The huge list of materials necessary to make the goods for the levequests for CUL just wasn't worth making myself.

[Raminax]

Walnut Bread kind of sucks at 20. Chamomile Tea until La Noscean Toast at 45 wasn't too tedious, honestly. Maybe Acorn Cookies, but in all honesty, if I remember it right you only needed to craft the Rye Flour, the rest was immediately purchasable (Mineral Water and the Iron Acorns). It also helps realizing that the stuff like Table Salt adds so little to the Quality bar that you can just Quick Synth it without taking a blow to your conscience.

That said, my personal experiences were something like this so far:

Weaver/Armourer > Carpenter > Blacksmith > Leatherworking > Goldsmith/Culinarian > Alchemist

Just the fact that Weaver and Armourer uses so damn many components sends the shard usage skyrocketing. I'm tired of farming shards but I refuse to accidentally buy shards gathered by bots and funding the RMT. -_-

[kukurumei]

Walnut Bread kind of sucks at 20. Chamomile Tea until La Noscean Toast at 45 wasn't too tedious, honestly. Maybe Acorn Cookies, but in all honesty, if I remember it right you only needed to craft the Rye Flour, the rest was immediately purchasable (Mineral Water and the Iron Acorns). It also helps realizing that the stuff like Table Salt adds so little to the Quality bar that you can just Quick Synth it without taking a blow to your conscience.

That said, my personal experiences were something like this so far:

Weaver/Armourer > Carpenter > Blacksmith > Leatherworking > Goldsmith/Culinarian > Alchemist

Just the fact that Weaver and Armourer uses so damn many components sends the shard usage skyrocketing. I'm tired of farming shards but I refuse to accidentally buy shards gathered by bots and funding the RMT. -_-

no way! Crp is way way easy.

On a cost+developement+cross class general anaylise

Easy: Alchemy
Easy-ish: Leather, Cooking
Middle: GSM, CRP
Hard: BSM/Armorer
Harder: Weaver

Some can be made easier like weaver that has very few cross class but lots of stages (mat->yarn->cloth -> clothes) but is overall terribly expensive and more expensive at the cost of quick synths, and this is not even including the farming of dirmite and fleece.

Some need considerable cross class materials like BSM, and thus make the tally much more cost infeffective and time consuming.

Some are made easier by applying "tricks" such as the the leatherwork and cooking, to vastly speed things up.

But overall, the easiest and most profitable and craft speed is alchemy (hi potion is godly) durring leveling

[Ksenia]

Easy: Alchemy
Easy-ish: Leather, Cooking
Middle: GSM, CRP
Hard: BSM/Armorer
Harder: Weaver

I agree with much of that but I found Alch to be more in line with Weaver. Just because the 45 is off limits due to pudding flesh. I also find Armorer to be akin to Weaver. Ingots, Plates, rings and other things to make any wearable. Blacksmith is the most brutal on cross class.

I went a bit foolish on Culi. I think I made all HQ ingredients for the toast, including the walnut bread and I made 90 of them so the prework to make the LaNoscean toast was more than the making it. Ended up only using 30 or so. I did that with all my 50's though. Ltw I had 36 HQ Cesti when I hit 45 in addition to 60 HQ Raptor leather. It was a matter of running up and down for new leve quests.

As for OP. All mats for Gsm are mined really. I get it all myself and in addition I throw NQ away as I mine so I do take longer than most. It might seem like a bad decision but when you are banging out HQ one right after the other and you don't need to play the says 90% is really 40% Hasty Hand game, you thank yourself.

[kukurumei]

I agree with much of that but I found Alch to be more in line with Weaver. Just because the 45 is off limits due to pudding flesh. I also find Armorer to be akin to Weaver. Ingots, Plates, rings and other things to make any wearable. Blacksmith is the most brutal on cross class.

I went a bit foolish on Culi. I think I made all HQ ingredients for the toast, including the walnut bread and I made 90 of them so the prework to make the LaNoscean toast was more than the making it. Ended up only using 30 or so. I did that with all my 50's though. Ltw I had 36 HQ Cesti when I hit 45 in addition to 60 HQ Raptor leather. It was a matter of running up and down for new leve quests.

As for OP. All mats for Gsm are mined really. I get it all myself and in addition I throw NQ away as I mine so I do take longer than most. It might seem like a bad decision but when you are banging out HQ one right after the other and you don't need to play the says 90% is really 40% Hasty Hand game, you thank yourself.

relic tool is not calculated. No one really do them in the order of their quest, and pudding flesh is not hard once you know where to look. Not to mention once you get access to milita off-hand, you can rush through most craft quest easily.

This is based on a rough cost of leveling/difficulty of process/ number of cross class mats that must be needed
alchemy by far easy is even with pudding flesh class quest and usually show up on AH now.

And weaver... so much farming it's not funny, no way it will be anything but the hardest/unprofitble leveling process. Even linen stage, you are still farming in huge amounts due to yarn to cloth to clothes.

Armorer is not hard, but since it is a 3-step, it's up there with bsm, just because you need tons and tons of iron but iron and steel is npc achievable and very cheap, and completely within class.

Cooking, you completely messed up. You can NPC from drybone for a triple, and then corn meal, to fairy apple.

And you kinda messed up on leather as well. There is a NPC brought triple very early to boast your levels and goat choker to very cheap pestie even if your are hurting for leves. you could even choose to complete spam that NPC brought triple till 50 with how fast you can spam it. Finally leather is very suspisious in that you get a 3 level below on your triple (choker is 27, on a 30 leve, etc), making HQ very early and easy.

[Ksenia]

pudding flesh is not hard once you know where to look.

This is based on a rough cost of leveling/difficulty of process/ number of cross class mats that must be needed
alchemy by far easy is even with pudding flesh class quest and usually show up on AH now.

Armorer is not hard, but since it is a 3-step, it's up there with bsm, just because you need tons and tons of iron but iron and steel is npc achievable and very cheap, and completely within class.

Pudding flesh is never available in the levels needed to do triple turn in leveling. It's used in the triple turn in for 45 though.

Armorer is a round about better than others craft. I'm left with Armorer, Bsm and Carpenter to get to 50 and of those three, I will need less Armorer turn ins. Between those three I will need over 300 Mythril ingots just to get them to 45 and if I do 45 Armorer turn in that number will be up in the 500 range. That's 1500 Mythril Ore for the three of them. They are used in all three crafts.

The thing is, with Bsm I use wood, leather and Ingots. With Crp I use Leather, Ingots and wood. In those cases I am not getting exper for the class in question on most of the parts. Armorer on the other hand I am making rivets and plates and the parts grind knocks 2 triple turn in or 18 items off my to do list to get out of the leve table.

Having said all that I don't mind doing it. Shard grind, I do mind. I madfe most of my Mythril Ingots using the Gsm recipe and I've burned through around 2000 wind shard between that and wind shard, Lumber.