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  1. #1
    Player
    Roris's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 80
    It's ok putting so little emphasis on crafting is a countermeasure so RMT don't run rampart everyday shouting, botting and controlling the mark-oh.
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  2. #2
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    Despite's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Aberrant Kultist
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Well that is discouraging.What's the point of even having low level recipes then if they're meant to be worthless?
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  3. #3
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    Delsus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah, where else?
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    Delsus Highwind
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 86
    How crafted gear should work across all levels for the best of both worlds is, you level a new job, as you are going through you buy gear, but then you start doing dungeons and slowly acquire better gear, this way the crafted gear is in demand as a starting point for gearing classes whilst people are slowly getting dungeon gear.

    The problem we have is vendors sell all decent crafted gear, therefore people are buying any stopgap gear there. GC gear is also a problem, it doesn't take long to get seals, so rather than spend gil on crafted gear you can gear using vastly superior gear, especially when you can just equip it. What I believe should happen is you have crafted and GC gear that are very similar in stats giving the player the choice "do I grind seals or farm gil to level xxx job?" RPers could choose GC gear to represent whilst they might buy crafted gear seeing themselves as more freelance. This then would give value to all kinds of gear.

    We also need to have the bare minimum gear available at vendors where we can, this then encourages players to use the markets more and allows crafters and gatherers to make money.
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    peaches's Avatar
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    Egwene Al'vere
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    On my server low level items seem more valuable and in demand than anything high level. Currently level 1-20 HQ jewelry is going for 1-2k a piece, all main and off hand weapons for crafters between 1-30 seem to be around 3-8k, and crafting/gathering gear is consistently around 5-8k a piece HQ.
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  5. #5
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The problem is that all of those items probably have terrible sales volume; the price is high because even though there's some demand it's hardly worth making.
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    Limsa
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    Doctor Mog
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 51
    Confirmed: Crafters useless 1-49
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  7. #7
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    OldGeezer's Avatar
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    Kallen Statdfeld
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Confirmed: Crafters useless 1-49
    So useless that I made 500K on it. Crafting has its utility, the problem is that crafters want their crafted product to be a customer's "main" gear. That's not going to happen. It's for customer's alt gear, a complerely different market but one where they can make a big contribution.. With the abundancy of tombs now from the recent patch I wonder if 2-star gear requiring tomb mats will come down in price and have higher volume.
    (0)

  8. #8
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    F'whalon Yhisa
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 33
    Biggest problem is most gear is either sold on an npc given in a quest or sold by the grand company making crafting near useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldGeezer View Post
    So useless that I made 500K on it. Crafting has its utility, the problem is that crafters want their crafted product to be a customer's "main" gear. That's not going to happen. It's for customer's alt gear, a complerely different market but one where they can make a big contribution.. With the abundancy of tombs now from the recent patch I wonder if 2-star gear requiring tomb mats will come down in price and have higher volume.
    (1)

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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OldGeezer View Post
    So useless that I made 500K on it. Crafting has its utility, the problem is that crafters want their crafted product to be a customer's "main" gear. That's not going to happen. It's for customer's alt gear, a complerely different market but one where they can make a big contribution.. With the abundancy of tombs now from the recent patch I wonder if 2-star gear requiring tomb mats will come down in price and have higher volume.
    The mat prices have definitely went down on Leviathan server. Prior to patch they sold for 15k-20k each (which is pretty ridiculous IMO), I just recently sold some for 4k each, which is still overpriced in my opinion. Not that I mind making the money, I just think they're stupidly overpriced.
    (0)

  10. #10
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Etoile Kallera
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    The mat prices have definitely went down on Leviathan server. Prior to patch they sold for 15k-20k each (which is pretty ridiculous IMO), I just recently sold some for 4k each, which is still overpriced in my opinion. Not that I mind making the money, I just think they're stupidly overpriced.
    Well now that crafting armor has absolutely no future, the pricing will likely go down to no longer be worth making. Enjoy those WP runs!
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