Coil mode for main story

[Noahlimits]

"Grow up" coming from a person that "works" on a video-game.



Cool. Looking forward to beat Turn 5 in 6/6/2014.

(yes I'm getting bitter)

Every single piece of content / dungeon they add to this game has some lore behind it. This isn't WoW (hate to have to use wow as an example since everyone does) where 90% of the time you aren't even sure why you're doing a raid / quest. Most if not all dungeons have at least have some lore associated with it. With that being said, why is it wrong they want to make it difficult to start with and easy mode later on? They want people to feel achievement by seeing and reading what happens next in the story.. if it were easy, would you still feel that achievement? /shrug I guess it's just a difference of opinion between us.

Either way, I'm all for how they're instituting it (hard at first, ezmode buffs later).

[EvokerKeii]

See....if enough people make their voices heard loud enough the Devs will listen, and they will think of a better solution to the problem than having to work on a whole new easier version of the content.

Thank you Hvinire for the information!

With all due respect, and I may be missing the sarcasm of your post but
WHAT!?
That's the same thing people have been saying for the last 6 pages! Suddenly a mod says it and it's listening to the players?

[Faedden]

It's not begging...if you work for a game company you should know better than that, the Devs are always looking for feedback from their player base, whether its a good idea or not it's always good to give them feedback on your playing experience, what you like or don't like about the game...what you find too easy or not challenging enough etc etc. =P

Because this isn't feed back. Everyone knows that old content will be nerfed. This is just a handful of people that don't want to gear up for content asking for a special version of the dungeon to be made for them instead of just waiting. Yoshi said they are going to push out content every 3 months. Right now we're playing catch up with the whole CT thing I'm assuming since it wasn't out on release. So 3 months from the 17th of this month, I'm positive there will be even more content and coil will be nerfed.

[Ri_ri]

I don't "work" on video games, I work FOR a video game company :P

Don't get mad at me because this game is super easy mode to me and even if it wasn't I still wouldn't beg for a easy mode button /shrugs

The only thing that actually made me mad is editing my quote. If you aren't snipping, don't do that.

We're saying that we should have multiple difficulties. Like how it's on most modern MMORPGs. You want FFXIV to stay behind?

To be honest I doubt you even care, you're just trolling.

Every single piece of content / dungeon they add to this game has some lore behind it. This isn't WoW (hate to have to use wow as an example since everyone does) where 90% of the time you aren't even sure why you're doing a raid / quest. Most if not all dungeons have at least have some lore associated with it. With that being said, why is it wrong they want to make it difficult to start with and easy mode later on? They want people to feel achievement by seeing and reading what happens next in the story.. if it were easy, would you still feel that achievement? /shrug I guess it's just a difference of opinion between us.

Either way, I'm all for how they're instituting it (hard at first, ezmode buffs later).

I think it's wrong because, to be honest, I hate being left behind. Beating it after the nerf/buff won't be any more accomplishing than beating it on "Easy".

The difference is, I'll probably struggle to find any groups. Hate to use WoW as an example, but that's exactly what happened with me on Cataclysm. I never got to see how Sinestra (that being only on the "Heroic" difficulty) and Nefarian ended, even in the last tier gear (T13 from the Dragon Soul) from normal mode. As over powered as our characters became, there was still the raid wiping mechanics to deal with, it was such a hassle that no one did it.

If there's no rewards worth getting, most won't do outdated content. Unless we're forced to run earlier set of turns to get to the next, even then we have to see if any group is willing to take anyone when they could be "speed running" it to get to current turns ASAP.

This is considering I won't be able to beat it even in CT gear (which I honestly think will be the case).

[Nici]

With all due respect, and I may be missing the sarcasm of your post but
WHAT!?
That's the same thing people have been saying for the last 6 pages! Suddenly a mod says it and it's listening to the players?

lol now now...i wasn't being sarcastic at all, if you read somewhere back in one of the pages i mentioned in one of my posts i am casual/hardcore, i found this thread discussion really informative and entertaining to say the least, some people from both camps made very good valid arguments...cept the watch the storyline thing on youtube...that's just dumb period, I was not either for or against either side of the argument...i just thought there should be a better solution for the casual player base to experience the "optional" part of the story line...and what do you know a mod came in and let us know something will be in the works!...yay.

[Faedden]

Jimmies are still rustled.

Doesn't matter what other mmos are doing, ffxiv isn't doing that. So go to those games instead? This game doesn't HAVE to do that. Why? because the entire game is easy mode. The entire game has been made easy for people that's never played a mmorpg before. Other mmos, the game is way harder than this.

People crack me up, first this game is a clone, now its doing something that other games aren't doing and people want them to do it too.

[Flionheart]

Doesn't matter what other mmos are doing, ffxiv isn't doing that. So go to those games instead? This game doesn't HAVE to do that. Why? because the entire game is easy mode. The entire game has been made easy for people that's never played a mmorpg before. Other mmos, the game is way harder than this.

People crack me up, first this game is a clone, now its doing something that other games aren't doing and people want them to do it too.

{(epik memes bro xD)}

[ispano]

Can you really say that? do you have the facts and numbers to show that casuals ARE the small minority of players of the game?...come on now. lol

Casuals? That's not who I'm referring to. I'm referring to the ones who want the story, want the easy mode since they can't or won't raid(for whatever reason) AND are 100% ok with no loot, etc. In my 10 years of MMO experience, most people who want an easy mode, still want gear and in some cases they don't want subpar gear either.

I'm talking about people who legitimately would be ok with a no loot dungeon, in a loot driven game, just for the story.

[ForteXX]

In the future, instead of creating easy modes of dungeons the team plans to add powerful buffs to players that will make difficult dungeons (including Binding Coil of Bahamut) easier to complete.

Would be nice if they also made an option to go in without the buff so things can be run at their normal difficulty for those that want it at least.

[Alhanelem]

Second, many people have already mentioned that SE plans to nerf coil later. (though we don't know exactly how much later) If they've already got people working on a nerfed coil, how is it a waste of their development time to use what they're already developing as an alternate version instead of a replacement? If anything, I think that would make the original development time of coil more worthwhile, since it won't be removed from the game.

It would be more work for them to implement and maintain two different versions instead of just one.

Which is why they're eventually going to be adding the same "you lost so we'll hold your hand" buff that exists for the other story battles. Same effect, much less work, people who already don't have trouble aren't affected by it.