Quelling strikes -> how does it exactly work?

[TempestZane]

I was wondering some things about Quelling Strikes, on how it works exactly, since based on this there are optimals way to use it for maximum enmity reduction.

What I was wondering is, how exactly does quelling lower your enmity? Does it:
Lower your enmity on each attack
1) based on a % of your current enmity?
2) based on a % of the damage of the attack
3) with a static amount? if this -> does the static amount scale?

Also how does it work with auto attacks? And with DoT's (initial damage and DoT ticks).

Any input on this is greatly appreciated!

[Kevee]

All actions(and Quelling Strike itself) done while the buff is present generate 50% enmity.

Same with any other buffs/debuffs, DoTs take a snapshot when they are applied.

[TempestZane]

All actions(and Quelling Strike itself) done while the buff is present generate 50% enmity.

Same with any other buffs/debuffs, DoTs take a snapshot when they are applied.

Thanks alot!

[RyuDragnier]

All actions(and Quelling Strike itself) done while the buff is present generate 50% enmity.

Same with any other buffs/debuffs, DoTs take a snapshot when they are applied.

Adding to this, it's best to save Quelling Strikes for when you're near the 75% mark on the aggro meter to avoid taking aggro from the tank, or when you're about to do anything that is known to grab more aggro, such as using Blood for Blood.

[Orophin]

As a BLM I'll usually open up with Quelling + Raging Strikes so that I can start heavy on a target and then my enmity is in check for the rest of the fight usually. I've seen many Bards be guilty of just opening up hard on a boss without using Quelling and they wonder why things go running after them.

[RyuDragnier]

As a BLM I'll usually open up with Quelling + Raging Strikes so that I can start heavy on a target and then my enmity is in check for the rest of the fight usually. I've seen many Bards be guilty of just opening up hard on a boss without using Quelling and they wonder why things go running after them.

They're usually also foolish enough to hit the boss before giving the tank enough time to grab all the aggro. Though, I've seen many DPS and even some healers guilty of grabbing aggro before the tank does at the start of a boss fight. A shame not everybody can have on Quelling Strikes.

[Enfarious]

As a BLM I'll usually open up with Quelling + Raging Strikes so that I can start heavy on a target and then my enmity is in check for the rest of the fight usually. I've seen many Bards be guilty of just opening up hard on a boss without using Quelling and they wonder why things go running after them.

I think this is the best way to open for any job that can bring Quelling, it allows the tank to build it's total enmity while the DD can still go all out. Most fights are much smoother this way, just too bad every DD can't Quelling Strike

[PArcher]

I think this is the best way to open for any job that can bring Quelling, it allows the tank to build it's total enmity while the DD can still go all out. Most fights are much smoother this way, just too bad every DD can't Quelling Strike

While I can't say anything for MNK, DRG really don't need it unless we're AoEing at the beginning; our damage takes time to ramp up and if the tank can't handle aggro in that period of time either they're vastly undergeared (compared to DRG), targeting the wrong enemy (I don't know how many tanks I've DFed that mark enemies...then attack #2 while DPS is starting on #1...) or just doesn't know what to do. And if all else fails we have an emergency aggro dump: Evasive Jump.

Would Raging/Quelling Strikes be nice on the DRG? Of course! Is Quelling necessary as we are right now? Would be nice, but isn't a necessity...

[Enfarious]

While I can't say anything for MNK, DRG really don't need it unless we're AoEing at the beginning; our damage takes time to ramp up and if the tank can't handle aggro in that period of time either they're vastly undergeared (compared to DRG), targeting the wrong enemy (I don't know how many tanks I've DFed that mark enemies...then attack #2 while DPS is starting on #1...) or just doesn't know what to do. And if all else fails we have an emergency aggro dump: Evasive Jump.
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Fair points, alot of my memories of Drg are from 1.0, and in 1.0 w/o Elusive Jump and Quelling Strikes I ran red alot, but all DDs ran red alot in 1.0. Mnk is a similar story, Brd would be if they couldn't land their most damaging hits before a tank can finish a combo, Blm would be the only job with any real hate control issues. Oh and Whm ... but that's a whole other deal.

[ruskie]

As a BLM I'll usually open up with Quelling + Raging Strikes so that I can start heavy on a target and then my enmity is in check for the rest of the fight usually. I've seen many Bards be guilty of just opening up hard on a boss without using Quelling and they wonder why things go running after them.

Us bards like to play this game of who can hold aggro ;P and quelling strikes is something for black mages XD

Frankly by the time my biggest burst comes in for me quelling strikes usually fall off a second or so earlier. So usually I just don't bother. If you can't have enough aggro after 14s or so to hold then idk...