The fans will be here when it's all said and done

[Majidah]

I stopped reading after I saw you refered to the imaginary "vocal minority" everyone loves to pin everything on when someone disagrees with them.

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

If this game was catering to suit you, then it wont last long at all........

Think about it. The fact it took you 3 month to get relic and do coil T1. That mean, you dont know how to effectively lv up, dont know how to effectively gears up, and you shouldnt use yourself as an example of the standard 2 hour play. In 2 hour per day and with my know how, i can get to where you are with a new character in about 2week.

This game is serverely lacking in contents. Coil/myth cap, there is nothing else to do beside those 2. Even GW2 1st release has more content and things to do end game than FF14.

Or maybe he does know how to do all of that, but spends time reading all of the dialogue, dabbling in other classes, helping out FC mates, etc. He is an example of the normal person who plays 2 hours per day, yes. It's taken me a month to get to level 39. I know how to do everything, but I'm not trying to rush to endgame. I'm enjoying everything as it happens and messing around with the game. You can't complain the game is lacking content when you just skip half of it.

[whilke]

Or maybe he does know how to do all of that, but spends time reading all of the dialogue, dabbling in other classes, helping out FC mates, etc. He is an example of the normal person who plays 2 hours per day, yes. It's taken me a month to get to level 39. I know how to do everything, but I'm not trying to rush to endgame. I'm enjoying everything as it happens and messing around with the game. You can't complain the game is lacking content when you just skip half of it.

Rushing to end game, and taking a month to almost hit level 40 are two completely different things. Getting to 50 in under a month is not rushing. Not everyone is interested in leveling up every job over and over again, or crafting, or going to find the best vista the game has to offer. This game has been out for almost four months now, it's time to stop calling people running coil rushers.

[lilena]

Im a fan of the FF series and of this game, that said, I wont be around in the end if this game doesnt change drastically.

I want to play an MMO with a world that has a lot more to offer, rather than instance after instance.

If I wanted to sit around waiting to queue up for everything in game, I'd be playing an FPS, and please don't come at me saying how there's other stuff to do in game. This game revolves around DF and its instances, nothing else is relevant, and this is the problem, not lack of content.

Agree. Grinding fates on my soon to be 5th 50 is B O R I N G. Doing the same dungeons the 500th time to get darklight for that character is going to be B O R I N G. The fact that there is no reason for my FC to raid Crystal tower since we cant go together Is what's making all my friends quit the game. =(

[Goodberry]

Excellent post, OP, and I agree completely on who stays with a game and who goes. I never played a game more than a couple months if I was not hooked to its world, characters and story. And I make friends with like minded people of course. Successful games manage to keep it all fresh with patches and expansions.

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

I'm not calling people running coil rushers, I'm calling someone who takes their main job to 50 and finishes most of the end game in two weeks at only two hours a day a rusher. There's a difference. You're right, hitting 50 in under a month isn't rushing. If I were to dedicate about 3-4 hours a night, I could probably do it pretty easily. I'm also not saying he has to try everything (although that's kind of the defining thing for this game, the fact that you can run every class with one character), I'm saying he can't be insulting someone for not rushing through the main storyline and say that they aren't the average player and don't know how to play. They are the average player. They want to see the story, enjoy what's unique about MMOs, and just enjoy the game. That doesn't mean they don't know how to go faster, they just don't want to.

I was also arguing about complaining that there isn't content when he clearly ran through it all. The content is there, it's up to you whether you enjoy it or not.

This is to whilke btw.

[Moirear]

I'm a filthy casual, and I've come to ruin your game!

[whilke]

I'm not calling people running coil rushers, I'm calling someone who takes their main job to 50 and finishes most of the end game in two weeks at only two hours a day a rusher. There's a difference. You're right, hitting 50 in under a month isn't rushing. If I were to dedicate about 3-4 hours a night, I could probably do it pretty easily. I'm also not saying he has to try everything (although that's kind of the defining thing for this game, the fact that you can run every class with one character), I'm saying he can't be insulting someone for not rushing through the main storyline and say that they aren't the average player and don't know how to play. They are the average player. They want to see the story, enjoy what's unique about MMOs, and just enjoy the game. That doesn't mean they don't know how to go faster, they just don't want to.

I was also arguing about complaining that there isn't content when he clearly ran through it all. The content is there, it's up to you whether you enjoy it or not.

This is to whilke btw.

Getting to 50 in two weeks is not rushing. I don't know what game you're playing, but you can get you first character to 50 by doing the main+side quests (and reading all the text) in two weeks. This game is designed to be at 50, I don't know why they don't just give you a lvl 50 job to start.

Every MMO lets you run every class if you want, and some people do, and some people don't. Not everyone is going to level up every base class and job. That is not content.

[Arale]

I stopped reading after I saw you refered to the imaginary "vocal minority" everyone loves to pin everything on when someone disagrees with them.

That always makes me laugh too. It's like ''you're wrong, this games fine!" then later they discover how many accounts the game has registered vs how many subs are registered. That niggling curiosity clicks in their heads and they go...so wait, where are those people?

Vocal minority of what was a silent majority is more like it. Yeahhh.....they quit. xD

[Yshnal]

Every MMO lets you run every class if you want, and some people do, and some people don't. Not everyone is going to level up every base class and job. That is not content.

That's entirely subjective. For some people "replaying" the game by leveling a new class is content and doing any endgame dungeon/raid for the 100th time just for loot isn't (more so here that every class/job has a different story and you can play them all with the same character), while for others it's the opposite. Both stances are valid.