DON"T DO IT !

[Shurrikhan]

It was fundamentally necessary to decouple Wrath and the healing bonus. I explained this in gory detail in a previous thread.

Thank you for the link. I had missed this before. Great post.

I think the only reason for any resistance to your comments come from whatever Warriors are used to doing that they feel special about, such as already only using Inner Beast with Infuriate such that the flat-scaling conflict seems to be skipped over, etc. The Wrath-heal coupling makes us choose between burst restoration and heal scaling when used more than per minute, which often makes the job feel more interesting, but I'll agree that it is probably more like a prized war wound.

I'm sure I'll get used to whatever changes are brought out, but especially since I don't plan on grabbing separate AF+1 gear for each tank, I'd like to have separate reasons for playing my PLD vs. my Warrior for a particular fight. I'd like them to remain separate in feeling, though I certainly wouldn't mind Warrior feeling a little twitchier, as the short-duration mitigation plans to make it. That's all from a gameplay-enjoy-ability perspective though, which is still at the mercy of actual balancing.

[Velox]

Y'all postin in a troll thread

[pepero]

How did you play in beta if your join date says Sep 2013?

[Jahaudant]

Maim : Unchained : Internal Release : Berserk

Posting in a perfect rotation thread.

[Ipkonfig]

You must run with awful DPS if you think Overpower has great enmity, Flash spam on PLD is so much more effective. Storm's Path will be AMAZING with the changes, if you aren't MT you can still give whatever you are fighting a damage reduction debuff and help the group. Currently all being a Warrior does is hinder your group. Holmgang... I assume you've tanked Garuda, you can Holmgang the adds, makes it easier to keep them out of the group. Mercy Stroke change is most likely about the cross class ability of it and not directly for WAR. You realize you contradict yourself correct?

"healers don't have trouble healing me"
"but this is a saving grace move that helps keep me alive"

So if healers don't have trouble keeping you alive why do you need the 300% Inner Beast? The change to Wrath is completely necessary in current 8 man content if you are using your Wrath without Infuriate to instantly gain 5 stacks again you are causing healing inefficiency. With two healers healing you, you will never outpace the 15% more healing with Inner Beast's heal, and will most likely cause a large amount of over healing. Steel Cyclone is terrible. I just tried to touch on a few topics quickly, since regardless of what we say this guy is going to remain a moron.

In conclusion Mr. Mchoogs, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read what you wrote. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Lemon8or]

I don't get why you need to unchained before inner beast. It ignores the damage penalty from Defiance already.

[ZDamned]

I don't get why you need to unchained before inner beast. It ignores the damage penalty from Defiance already.

Hey man, it's a PERFECT rotation!

PS I also LOVE how he thinks paladins only deal 70-80 DPS, since based on his gear, (370 Strength, and no +1 Relic) He can probably cap out at 180 assuming using berserk immediatly when it's up, and hitting up Butchers Block as if he didn't care about enmity. He DID say he deals 100 more DPS than Paladins.

That being said, My Paladin already deals more than 100 DPS, and I do NOT have my Curtana +1.

All based on a Training Dummy of course.

[YourAgSshouldBeDisplayed]

sorry lemor you were right. but ya gotta use unchained some time. Blood bath was missing from that rotation that's why it was confusing.

And leoric you are a paladin and have absolutely no credibility on this thread. You can talk till your blue in the face and post all the bull you want but its still coming from a paladin for which not a single warrior gives two cents about. nice try but owned.

Joined date is on the forums nubs.

And lastly I love how all these idiots boil it down to DPS and paladin think they do more dps than a warrior GREAT laughs. This is about the changes. All you paladins can be but hurt about dps all you want no one cares. I mad cause I don't want your life. I don't want your lame mitigation and Yeah WHM need to cast stone skin. I do it and I don't run out of mana so suck it WHM's that dunno how to play your job.

[Hanabira]

Perfect example someone that dunno anything. Might want to read your ability again.

And leoric you are a paladin and have absolutely no credibility on this thread You can talk till your blue in the face and post all the bull you want but its still comming from a paladin for which not a single warrior gives two cents about. nice try but owned.

Joined date is on the forums nubs.

And lastly i love how all these idiots boil it down to DPS and paladin think they do more dps than a warrior GREAT laughs. This is about the changes all you paladins can be but hurt about dps all you want no one cares. I mad cause I don't want your life. I don't want your lame mitigation and Yeah WHM need to cast stone skin. I do it and I don't run out of mana so suck it WHM's that dunno how to play your job.

umm lol.. you should probably check again.. inner beast and steel cyclone already ignore the defiance damage penalty. I dont understand how you keep saying that mitigation is too PLD'y.. but instead, you want the CHANCE to mitigate the same amount of damage. And lets be serious, i dont care how many pieces of lv.90 you have, if you honestly dont feel like you are making battles harder for your group, you are delusional. It doesnt matter that your group can win battles (because mine can too) but i know it would be far easier if i were pld.. thats why changes need to be made.

[YourAgSshouldBeDisplayed]

yeah your right im an idiot but i cant be right all the time _ i swear i read it right before i posted DERPTY DERP


Its totally paladin, if anything like i said they could make us good at parry. make STR actually affect the amount parried like it says and not just a flat 23% rate. I don't want % mitigation I should have just rolled a paladin instead.

I want a dps tank class with self heals like I started at beta. Now your changing the whole essence of my class and no matter what you change paladin is better so why give me a couple moves that homogenize me toward the paladin and arn't gonna make me equal or better.

I will not be-able to solo dungeon bosses from 50% when they make these changes. I wont be-able carry bad healers like I do right now. All your doing is making me regret making a warrior spending my myth on him; I should have made a paladin like I've been saying the whole time.

it boils down to utility and paladins with silence and stun are more desired. but doesn't mean warriors can't and don't get it done. And no i don't think i make it harder for my group. I think SE made it harder for my group.

Everyone wants to run 2 paladins and 2 bards in coils for easy mode and it's kinda a joke. Giving me % mitigation isnt gonna change that.

i still dont have silence for ADS or invulnerability for when the snake has 5 stacks but still some how the paladin always dies and i live weird how that is. . . .