Reason why DF people fail Titan

[NeonC]

There are 2 big reasons people fail Titan. It has little to do with gear or latency.


2. They plume each other

Haha, this is very common. In fact I have gotten quite used to seeing that one squanderer flailing in the back knowing that he could trap us all. Ah ignorance is blis, but you can always start to position yourself and kind of counter his movements to ensure a safe escape.

[Lanceton]

to success in pre 2.1 titan HM there are simply 3 criteria

1. almost flawlessly avoid titan's aoe (either by living close to the datacenter, or having under 0.5s reflexes at all time, or memorization of titan's attack patterns)
2. managing the heals (healer keep the tank and members alive, tank gets prepared for MB)
3. have enough dps to brust down titan's heart (by people who 'can't dps' but with good gear, or people who 'can dps' with minimal gear. DF=4 DPS)

a DF party can very hardly meet all 3 criteria therefore easy to fail.
those who succeeded also are more likely to have been carried by partially pre-made group

Titan HM is perfectly doable with ilvl60s, and the ilvl doesn't really have too much to do with a group's success or failure here.

I have seen way too many people, tank, heal or dps alike who spent a lot of time to collect their gears and think they are automatically the best, but in fact those gears become a complete waste on them.

[Yuff-Yuff]

Titan HM is perfectly doable with ilvl60s, and the ilvl doesn't really have too much to do with a group's success or failure here.

I have seen way too many people, tank, heal or dps alike who spent a lot of time to collect their gears and think they are automatically the best, but in fact those gears become a complete waste on them.

I agree so much.

[Doo]

Titan HM is perfectly doable with ilvl60s, and the ilvl doesn't really have too much to do with a group's success or failure here.

I have seen way too many people, tank, heal or dps alike who spent a lot of time to collect their gears and think they are automatically the best, but in fact those gears become a complete waste on them.

I've seen way more I60 and under not even make it to heart phase constantly. At least with the players that collect their gear you know that they made some sort of effort to prepare for the fight.

You can pretty much predict who is going to die first when you examine everyone before the start of the fight.

[MikoteAstra]

Here is my opinion about Titan Hard mode and why people in it fail !

Most of you people are looking at the topic on the wrong side!

For me main reason is that the entroduction of the Primals Hard mode is made in a wrong way and there is little explanation for it ! As a new player witch recently encounter them and passed true them i can tell you this ! So we are basicly not prepared for it at all !
Most of us after finishing the main story are taking the Relic Weapon quest witch in it is really little saied what we gona encounter exactly ! Thx to the main story scenario we get our end set of armor with the quests so i pursonaly tought that it will be similar for the weapon !

I knew that lvl 50 is the last lvl for us and i knew that from the main story we get our lvl 50 armor......how am i suppose to know that there is lvl 60 and above armor sets or that the priamals are lvl 60 and above ! I aske you here why is there a posability to have lvl 60 items when you are lvl 50, for me this is really wrong !
I passed true Ifrit easy, the fight is not hard at all jsut like the normal mode but with little more extra things the Primals do ! For Garuda was ca. the same story !

Now for Titan on witch spots i died !

1. On the later phase of titan on the Stumps, didnt have enough hp and deff....but as monk so and so i have little hp and deff !
2. The Plumps ! This need to be fixed....im the first one to get out of them in the end the other party members dont get hit but me yes ! People say i got some sort of battle lagg well fix it, im really angry when i dodge all the titans atacks and thx to such thing i die !
3.Lack of information and players witch when you ask them they dont explain you a thing but get angry and leave the fight !

I got lucky and was in a really really strong party so thx to them i passed it !

[Shneibel]

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I belive deff = def ?
I have a MNk too and I have 4k-4,1k hp in titan, so I survive well in tulmult, if your hp is low, you might want to re-location your stats.
Have nothing to say about plume beside with the amount of hp I got even lag or get MPK, i wont die by eat double plume

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ability to learn fast (learning or memorize) is something to be proud of isnt it ? skill or not is irrilevant, imo. Though I wont say that healing in titan doesnt required skill.

[Yuff-Yuff]

Here is my opinion about Titan Hard mode and why people in it fail !

First of all, I appreciate your effort, but it's still quite a pain to read your writing. No offense tho.

Sadly, in the current generation of online games, it's not common knowledge anymore that people actually GET TOGETHER in groups to do big stuff like Titan in FF:ARR.
Stuff like the Dutyfinder is a tool to casualize MMORPGs, so more Players can do stuff more easier.
WoW did a great job with that idea, but we have to think of the origins.
These Dungeons, or Trials, of whatever you wanna call them are DESIGNED. to be done by a group of players who made a group to achieve just that goal.
That includes at least having a voicechat for everyone, so someone who already has expierience can guide the others.

It's actually MEANT to be that way. Titan is not INTENDED to get slain in the DF.
If it would be different, it would just be as boring as WoW is nowdays.

[DarkRain]

First of all, I appreciate your effort, but it's still quite a pain to read your writing. No offense tho.


Sadly, in the current generation of online games, it's not common knowledge anymore that people actually GET TOGETHER in groups to do big stuff like Titan in FF:ARR.
Stuff like the Dutyfinder is a tool to casualize MMORPGs, so more Players can do stuff more easier.
WoW did a great job with that idea, but we have to think of the origins.
These Dungeons, or Trials, of whatever you wanna call them are DESIGNED. to be done by a group of players who made a group to achieve just that goal.
That includes at least having a voicechat for everyone, so someone who already has expierience can guide the others.

It's actually MEANT to be that way. Titan is not INTENDED to get slain in the DF.
If it would be different, it would just be as boring as WoW is nowdays.

I like what you said BUT ......... If Titan was not intended to be slain in the DF then the Devs would not have added it on the list . Just sayin .


My opinion Titan is not a gear check . Anyone with Item Level 60 gear can do Titan HM . ( AK gear drops and some WP gear drops ) You do not need DL for it . DL was meant to be for Coil same with Relic . Titan is a Idiot check . Sorry but it is true . Some people just can not do it because they don't have the critical thinking to do it . Nor the memory skills . People today ( typically under the age of 25 ) not all but a vast majority of people think there entitled . So sure a lot of people might have been carried this far in the game because of it . Some resort to buying a titan run because well they "deserve" to have that victory as shallow of one that it is. Others ( typically over 25 ) know what Earning something is . And know that they will try and try and try to get better and make that victory even more sweeter .

Just my opinion like rear ends everyone has one .

[Yuff-Yuff]

If Titan was not intended to be slain in the DF then the Devs would not have added it on the list . Just sayin .

I think you misunderstood me.
Well, maybe I just expressed myself in the wrong way.
Of course, you're right with that.

All I'm saying is, that you can't expect to slay Titan with a DF Group.
It has been designed to be done with a group I described in my previous post.
The Dungeonfinder is an addition to that. But the Titan Hardmode itself was surely not made to just be a DF-Instance

Hope that clears it up.

[DarkRain]

I think you misunderstood me.
Well, maybe I just expressed myself in the wrong way.
Of course, you're right with that.

All I'm saying is, that you can't expect to slay Titan with a DF Group.
It has been designed to be done with a group I described in my previous post.
The Dungeonfinder is an addition to that. But the Titan Hardmode itself was surely not made to just be a DF-Instance

Hope that clears it up.

I was just giving you a hard time