Reason why DF people fail Titan

[Grailer]

I think garuda fight is a tough enough fight to open people's eyes. Titan is more like a connection check if anything.

well you can eat a plume or 2 if your armor is ok, undergeared means you have less HP and die .

Healer has bad gear , heals are weaker .
DPS bad gear , dps weak .
Tank bad gear , healer has to work harder which makes healing under geared dps even harder .

Basically the better gear you have the easier it is . But gear alone isn't going to win , you need to beable to actually use that gear .

[10TailBeast]

A FC was offering to help people past Titan for tips. I was having difficulty so I accepted the offer. Does that mean I suck? Nope. I can dodge Titan just fine. During the fight I held my own, just got clipped by a couple of big plumes. Other players were holding me back. Should I be punished because someone else can't play? Carries aren't all bad. FCs that charge ridiculous amounts of Gil.......well that's another matter.

[Zfz]

I did Titan for about 7 or 8 times through the DF before finally downing it. Since I'm a tank, I've had the opportunity to observe why each party failed it.

One party got Titan to 20% with everyone surviving and then healer died to landslide and things fell apart. After that people quit.

About 3 to 4 parties had trouble getting through the heart phase, only one of them was due to really insufficient dps, the rest were DDs dying to various things.

The biggest problem I can see is the fact that Ifrit can be stunned. Most DF nowadays want all Eruptions stunned. So people progress through that without ever learning to maintain dps/hps while moving. Garuda has no such traps and all it tests is people's ability to attack whatever is marked. (Indeed I've had a party that was unable to find out for themselves which adds to kill first, until I mark it for them.) But in Titan, none of the damage can be stunned.

There's no "big jump" in difficulty in Titan like some people like to think. Weight of the Land and Landslides have equivalents in Ifrit already; bombs are just a twist from the Garuda cyclones. The only new element in the Titan fight is the gradually increasing healing pressure. Yet from my experience healers are rarely the failure point in DF Titan HM.

I'd guess it's just that people are used to taking the easy way out of Ifrit and Garuda that they've always being behind the difficulty curve.

And finally there's the latency issue. That has nothing to do with skill and there's nothing anyone can do about it short of getting a paid tunneling service.

[Nahara]

I was under the impression that most people fail DF Titan HM because of a lack of patience.

In the many times I did Titan HM just to try and learn the mechanics, I got the distinct feeling that most people went into DF Titan expecting to get an awesome group and get carried through it. Get wiped once or twice and people start dropping, unwilling to reassess the situation and try to make things work.

[Vahlnir]

I was under the impression that most people fail DF Titan HM because of a lack of patience.

In the many times I did Titan HM just to try and learn the mechanics, I got the distinct feeling that most people went into DF Titan expecting to get an awesome group and get carried through it. Get wiped once or twice and people start dropping, unwilling to reassess the situation and try to make things work.

This and so much more. I have lost count as to the amount of groups that have simply just...given up. Doesn't matter how close they get, one and done for most it seems. Patience is a virtue that many simply don't possess. Some even leave before the fight even starts claiming the party isn't geared enough...which is unfortunately something I have to admit is true at least half of the time.

[zPanda]

Let's be real here - Titan is all about memorization of the patterns/moves, it's not really any form of "skill" unless you consider memorization a skill here.

Main keys to winning Titan aside from the DPS check during heart phase is just knowing when these 2 moves occur post-heart and where to go:

1) Stacked plumes
2) bomb-pattern followed by landslide

If you completely randomized the order of the moves post-heart and the moves did not come at any specific "rhythm" timing, you would see a lot more people not being able to beat Titan yet. With the 0.3 second server position updating along with any latency you might have on your end - good luck if the fight were designed this way instead of the predictable pattern it is now.

[Nayto]

Let's be real here - Titan is all about memorization of the patterns/moves, it's not really any form of "skill" unless you consider memorization a skill here.

It's a skill.

No This is a skill

Requires basic math and observation still... hence memorization, which is a skill within a skill. Ooooh!

No This is a skill

That's Patrick.

[DarkRain]

It's a skill.

No This is a skill

[Yuff-Yuff]

No This is a skill

No This is a skill

[KenzieLynch]

Titan guards the gate to endgame, and in that sense the fight is everything is should be. A skill/gear check.

Unfortunately you can't stop people from buying their relics and missing out on some valuable weeks of banging their head against the wall and actually getting better. Reality hits when they find out Coil runs aren't for sale.