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    Worried about where the game is going

    Please note i'm not saying the game sucks.

    It's mostly due to the FC airship feature they announced. I got to thinking of how instanced the world is compared to most modern MMORPGs (The cities are split into two instances, I find that just silly). What can they even do with these airships? The most i thought of was there'd be entirely new zones just for airships, which seems lame to segregate the airships from the rest of the game. In general, I feel there is a lack of world in the game. And while it was amusing at first, the pop culture references just bug me now. Feels out of place in a game that wants to focus on the story.
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    We were the first to kill Ifrit.

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    It's so painfully easy to level up as well that I'm almost to where I don't need to participate in the market as I'll be self-sufficient with all crafts to 50. In 1.0 the sheer grind kept you from leveling all of the crafts to 50 and a devoted crafter was just that.

    Alongside from that the only market crafters (mostly) have is other crafters. You don't need to buy gear since quests hand them out like candy, nor do you even need good gear since FATEs are the best way to level and if you do do dungeons you're getting gear from that regardless.
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    We were the first to kill Ifrit.

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    maybe FC airship can go to unknown floating island for open world raid XD
    open world pvp ground, backstabbing on ur way to the boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impurrrsive View Post
    maybe FC airship can go to unknown floating island for open world raid XD
    open world pvp ground, backstabbing on ur way to the boss
    You said Open World, XIV community hates Open World.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Key difference from the dev team though. Where BW used buzz words like "soon", SE actually talks to you and tells what's coming when. Compare 2.1 to SWTOR first update.
    Wait wait wait wait....

    Did you really ignore XIV's development for 2 years? I say 2 years based on your join date being 2011 and you don't seem to think SE use buzz words either - Remember Yoshida's "soon after e3" that was...far from being "soon after" and rather "much later than"? Or how everything is always delayed/pushed back and "We can't tell you"/"Won't spoil the surprise"/"Look forward to it"? BW is more direct than SE is in many regards lol. If you compare 2.1 to SWTOR's first update, you'll realize most of 2.1 is content that was pushed back or being reintroduced from 1.0.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 11-30-2013 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You said Open World, XIV community hates Open World.
    What are you saying? XIV community seems to love FATEs judging by how stuffed Aleport, Quarrymill and such continue to be. [/controversy]
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    I don't like nor am interested in doing the gear-treadmill. (I'm not asking gear to be handed to me. I just dislike the power-creep it brings and as more dungeons get added new players have to drudge through the then old and abandoned dungeons to play catch up. I just dislike the gear-treadmill as a system of progression).

    The way Guild Wars 2 does it is: You can get the basic max level gear relatively easy (think relic or darklight) but the upgrades are minor in terms of stats but still take a long time to get. The real end-game in GW2 is getting awesome looking cosmetics from the new dungeons that come out. I think FFXIV would do well to at least implement some awesome looking things that would take months of grinding to obtain. As opposed to the stupid luminary things that are normal looking tools with a decal on them.
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    We were the first to kill Ifrit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldHill View Post
    Please note i'm not saying the game sucks.



    It's mostly due to the FC airship feature they announced. I got to thinking of how instanced the world is compared to most modern MMORPGs (The cities are split into two instances, I find that just silly). What can they even do with these airships? The most i thought of was there'd be entirely new zones just for airships, which seems lame to segregate the airships from the rest of the game. In general, I feel there is a lack of world in the game. And while it was amusing at first, the pop culture references just bug me now. Feels out of place in a game that wants to focus on the story.
    Airships were planned from 1.0 but were never implemented. Unsure of the content involved with them but from what I can recall it will be a group crafting event. They had another thing that was shown waaay back for cooks where they all helped build a giant cake. Regarding the FC airships, there was also random landing/launching towers across 1.0's landscape. They have also eluded to special FATE events to liven up airship travel and sea travel. There is a grand vision for this game. It's coming in stages so we either need to be patient or leave and come back later on.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldHill View Post
    It's so painfully easy to level up as well that I'm almost to where I don't need to participate in the market as I'll be self-sufficient with all crafts to 50. In 1.0 the sheer grind kept you from leveling all of the crafts to 50 and a devoted crafter was just that.

    Alongside from that the only market crafters (mostly) have is other crafters. You don't need to buy gear since quests hand them out like candy, nor do you even need good gear since FATEs are the best way to level and if you do do dungeons you're getting gear from that regardless.
    I see where you are coming from. I too wanted to be useful crafting weapons and armors but now find it useless beyond attaching materia or repairs. This will come as they add in more content. They are far from finished. Don't panic!

    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldHill View Post
    I don't like nor am interested in doing the gear-treadmill. (I'm not asking gear to be handed to me. I just dislike the power-creep it brings and as more dungeons get added new players have to drudge through the then old and abandoned dungeons to play catch up. I just dislike the gear-treadmill as a system of progression).

    The way Guild Wars 2 does it is: You can get the basic max level gear relatively easy (think relic or darklight) but the upgrades are minor in terms of stats but still take a long time to get. The real end-game in GW2 is getting awesome looking cosmetics from the new dungeons that come out. I think FFXIV would do well to at least implement some awesome looking things that would take months of grinding to obtain. As opposed to the stupid luminary things that are normal looking tools with a decal on them.
    They have only scratched the surface of endgame which is where we were told "the true game begins" as it stands today, sure it may seem lacking but we know there is much more coming. Golden Saucer, Hard mode dungeons, Side stories, bonus content, PvP, Housing, and so on. Sure gear might be easy right now but It wont stay that way. I don't see many people whit full Allagan gear yet. The only reason you would have to be concerned with the direction of the game is if you assumed that this is all we will ever get. But the nature of the MMO genre means it is never finished.
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    First, You can edit your post to get past the 1000 character cap. Second I think GW2 is an AWFUL game and I hope this game never strides to be like GW2.

    However, I do agree with you about the gear tread mill in a sense. At the current pace, it looks like FFXIV will release expansions like World Of Warcraft did. Where each expansion basically makes the previously expansion irrelevant. I don't want FFXIV to go that route. I want expansions to come out without killing previous content.

    However I am fine with getting gear throughout the whole process. But they need to add content to previous expansions as they release new expansions to keep things balanced.

    E.g. If they release a new expansion that's IL 100, then they need to add hard mode dungeons to launch content that are il 70, and add turns to BCB that are IL 100, etc etc. In essence, each expansion should bring new high level content and add the same high level content to previous expansions to keep them all relevant.
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    Then play Guild Wars 2.
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    I'm hoping we can use the FC airship to sneak in to Ishgard.
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