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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
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    We're made aware of Zodiark in the last cutscene, when Lahabrea talks with the other Ascians.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayokane View Post
    the kobolds did not instantly respond and remained relatively passive until they were able to summon Titan after the Battle of Silvertear Skies
    They didn't respond largely because they had no effective means of combating Lominsa's military. It was either give up the land or get slaughtered. So yea, when they finally had the means to fight back, fight back they did.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosamm View Post
    As well as a disturbing lack of voice acting, which in my opinion, really adds tons of depth to the storyline.
    The voice acting, English VA's at least, are terrible. Not all mind you; Gaius' and Thancred's VAs get the job done, among a few others, but the rest? Terrible. Less heard of it, the better. I'd rather read what Minfilla has to say than have to hear it.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    They didn't respond largely because they had no effective means of combating Lominsa's military. It was either give up the land or get slaughtered. So yea, when they finally had the means to fight back, fight back they did.
    The governance of countries is not like a game of Civ5, where there's enough for everyone and trustworthiness abounds. My point is, the 3 city states are looking to their own affairs because the carnage wrought has left them in a weakened state with enemies at the door. So no, no one cares about the beast tribes. Not since the little moon dropped and the legions who dropped said moon tried to slaughter us. The times are more desperate than you think. It's only when the story is finished that one major threat out of several is done with.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 11-29-2013 at 05:47 AM.

  5. #75
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    Let's not paint the whole orders/city-states with the colours of a few selected individuals. They're not utopic kingdoms alright, they have their own share of pretty problems... But at least, if you don't agree with the way Uldah or Gridania are run, you're free to leave/ask for change. Which I cannot say for the Empire :/.
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    Yar.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    We're made aware of Zodiark in the last cutscene, when Lahabrea talks with the other Ascians.
    I know. What i asked is, where has been said the purple mothercrystal is zodiark ?
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    This is stated where ? In turn 5 ? If so, i have still to clear it.
    It's not actually stated anywhere. Like I said, most of it is implied. Lahabrea reveals Zodiark to be the Ascian god and then your character suddenly sees a dark crystal much like Hydaelyn (whom we know IS a god)... the scene structure just heavily implies that crystal to be Zodiark, especially given that the Ascians are directly opposed to Hydaelyn.

    Most of the lore in FFXIV is told through subtleties and inferences; it's the best way to explore lore in my opinion but it also means you have to connect the dots yourself most of the time.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It's not actually stated anywhere. Like I said, most of it is implied. Lahabrea reveals Zodiark to be the Ascian god and then your character suddenly sees a dark crystal much like Hydaelyn (whom we know IS a god)... the scene structure just heavily implies that crystal to be Zodiark, especially given that the Ascians are directly opposed to Hydaelyn.

    Most of the lore in FFXIV is told through subtleties and inferences; it's the best way to explore lore in my opinion but it also means you have to connect the dots yourself most of the time.
    but still, it's not clearly told, so it could be wrong. I'll keep it just "purple mothercrystal" then.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Look at how the soldiers of Ul'dah treat their own people (especially the women). It's pretty horrible stuff, and not something that allows you to call them any shade of "good".
    Please provide examples.
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    Wow...

    Who needs to be worried over the war between Garlemald and Eorzea?
    We've got a gripping, dramatic war going on right here in this thread. Lol.

    [starts looking up at the skies waiting for someone to drop a moon on everyone here]

    Hmm...think I'll go stand over...THERE. Yes. ^^
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