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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Some others have already pointed this out, but I think it's important to factor in how the Empire has treated the people of Ala Mhigo (especially the women). It's pretty horrible stuff, and not something that allows you to call them any shade of "good."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Some others have already pointed this out, but I think it's important to factor in how the Empire has treated the people of Ala Mhigo (especially the women). It's pretty horrible stuff, and not something that allows you to call them any shade of "good."
    Look at how the soldiers of Ul'dah treat their own people (especially the women). It's pretty horrible stuff, and not something that allows you to call them any shade of "good".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Look at how the soldiers of Ul'dah treat their own people (especially the women). It's pretty horrible stuff, and not something that allows you to call them any shade of "good".
    There is a reason I choose to join Twin Adders
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    There is a reason I choose to join Twin Adders
    Ah, the forest cult who turns away starving and dying refugees. Who worship and serve elementals that steal children from their parents. What pure paragons of virtue and idealism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Ah, the forest cult who turns away starving and dying refugees. Who worship and serve elementals that steal children from their parents. What pure paragons of virtue and idealism.
    If you are putting this way, Roman Cathloic in Vertican is probably 100 times worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Ah, the forest cult who turns away starving and dying refugees. Who worship and serve elementals that steal children from their parents. What pure paragons of virtue and idealism.
    Woah there! That is a pretty damning accusation, and as a Gridanian from start to finish I think some evidence of this is in order. True, Gridanians can be a little Xenophobic at times, but between Mioune and Buscarron they have more than enough room for travelers, and people in need. Only reason the wood wailers give you a hard time in the start is because, as these forums can illustrate, we adventurers can be a troublesome bunch. As for the Elementals, it is more a matter of respect. They are the forest given life, and we respect that nature. Giving back for each tree we take, and returning land no longer needed. I do not recall tales of child abduction anywhere, so before you attack a man's home do have a source to prove your claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Look at how the soldiers of Ul'dah treat their own people (especially the women). It's pretty horrible stuff, and not something that allows you to call them any shade of "good".
    Please provide examples.
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    How do I not like Gaius? Simple.
    I look at him, and I see this:
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    @BlueMage: You keep counterpointing Empire evil with city-state evils. How about you admit that they both are absolutely terrible and deserve a swift departure from this plane of existence. The Scions may be inept, but at they're far better off than any other group of people right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vactus View Post
    @BlueMage: You keep counterpointing Empire evil with city-state evils. How about you admit that they both are absolutely terrible and deserve a swift departure from this plane of existence.
    Admit? I've been trying to make the point from the start that they're both capable of evil. Way to not read the thread and blindly attack though.
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