How long do mounts take to add?

[Cutriss]

5 years is bullshit.

The crystal tools wasn't even ready at the time, not to mention the huge pproblems SE had while developing it, causing XIII and versus to be delayed for the longest time.

Yeah, uh, XIII was delayed for the 360 port, remember?

XI's resources and manpower were cut considerably after the second half of 2007. Look there for the real dev time.

^ This. . . .

No. No. Not "this" at all. XI's resources and manpower were cut down because they weren't doing anything. The game was sunsetting. It's not like XI people were suddenly pulled from the team to work on XIV, and even if that were the case, they've still had a sizeable amount of time to figure out these "concepts" they've been kicking around forever.

Let's assume that the entire game production has to wait until Crystal Tools is done. A faulty one, because if that were true, then XIII would have been delayed even further than it was. But whatev's. That means that rather than screwing around wasting money, they can get all this planning stuff done ahead of time so that they know what's going to go into the game, rather than having thoughtful discussions about it nearly a year after the first external playtesting has started.

At any rate, even if you cling to that silly theory of yours that the game was only recently in development because they had to get people off of XI, then you should be pissed off beyond belief that they're "diverting resources" to the production of WAKFU and that other MMO that they just announced.

One or the other! Can't have it both ways!

[TonyMontana]

The gestation period for chocobos sure is loooooooooong! Come on SE give birth to some chocobos already!

[TheRac25]

bugtesting.

SE bug testing, thats new, when did they start doing that?

[Kailok]

What's done is done. Whether or not it took 5 years or two is irrelevant, we're still waiting on Chocobos, and we'll have them in the next couple months. While I also think Tanaka wasted a lot of time as well, we've been complaining about the same things for the last 9 months. Yes, you've waited 9 months so far. Wait a couple more. The battle system changes in a couple weeks should be enough to keep you entertained for just a LITTLE bit longer.

[TonyMontana]

What's done is done. Whether or not it took 5 years or two is irrelevant, we're still waiting on Chocobos, and we'll have them in the next couple months. While I also think Tanaka wasted a lot of time as well, we've been complaining about the same things for the last 9 months. Yes, you've waited 9 months so far. Wait a couple more. The battle system changes in a couple weeks should be enough to keep you entertained for just a LITTLE bit longer.

While I understand what you are saying, waiting 9 months +++ for chocobos/battle systems/content/ANYTHING is a huge factor in why this games retention rate for customers is between 5 and 10% that number could (most likely will) go lower the longer they wait.

[Kailok]

I understand your frustrations. I've been waiting just as long, I bought the CE, I was let down at release as well. And yeah, 1.18 is probably a final straw for me. If they don't seriously pull something out of their hats, I'll look elsewhere until the game is so beyond fixed that I'm surprised. But at the same time, I try to stay optimistic about how good 1.18 will be, and the other changes this summer if 1.18 manages to make me happy. I just think the bickering about whether or not it was 5 years or 2.5 years got out of hand, and that at this point there's nothing we can do except wait it out and hope for the best Chocobo system we could get. I HOPE Cardaies (my apologies if I spelled that wrong) is right. But right now, even though I'm itching for chocos as well, my main problem is the lack of being able to be social with my LS during a group, not getting from Ul'Dah to Gridania on a chicken. I'm hoping to see a boost in players too, but I think that will come with the PS3 release more than anything else.

[Seif]

During the life of this thread a SE employee has probably modeled one chocobo feather...

[Betelgeuzah]

No. No. Not "this" at all. XI's resources and manpower were cut down because they weren't doing anything. The game was sunsetting. It's not like XI people were suddenly pulled from the team to work on XIV, and even if that were the case, they've still had a sizeable amount of time to figure out these "concepts" they've been kicking around forever.

What does a vague term like "sunsetting" even mean in this context? What logic, from the company's standpoint, is there to cease development on a game just because it's getting old? That's not a sensible reason.

Let's assume that the entire game production has to wait until Crystal Tools is done. A faulty one, because if that were true, then XIII would have been delayed even further than it was. But whatev's. That means that rather than screwing around wasting money, they can get all this planning stuff done ahead of time so that they know what's going to go into the game, rather than having thoughtful discussions about it nearly a year after the first external playtesting has started.

Clearly their plans were shit, plus the small detail of having a completely different design team- so they had to reconsider. Had they started external playtesting much earlier, we wouldn't even be in this situation- but it's a waste to even talk about it, the past is not going to change.

At any rate, even if you cling to that silly theory of yours that the game was only recently in development because they had to get people off of XI, then you should be pissed off beyond belief that they're "diverting resources" to the production of WAKFU and that other MMO that they just announced.

This game was only recently in development because they had trouble developing the game engine (which they most certainly did). XI team switched over as soon as they could start the development.

You have said nothing to suggest otherwise.

SE bug testing, thats new, when did they start doing that?

>implying XIV wasn't one of the least buggy MMO's released in a long time.

Some of you live in some special world of your own where design decisions turn into bugs and Wada is your eternal arch-rival/Sephiroth incarnation that must be destroyed.