Why does no one complain about Summoners?

[Seobit]

Any coil group that runs a great SMN knows they can't be touched right now. The only part where they don't pull ahead of all the other classes is the two spider phases on turn 4, everything else SMN dominates, especially turn 5 which is a perfect fight for them.

[Kevee]

Bad summoners are keeping us safe from the scorn of the masses.

This.

Any coil group that runs a great SMN knows they can't be touched right now. The only part where they don't pull ahead of all the other classes is the two spider phases on turn 4, everything else SMN dominates, especially turn 5 which is a perfect fight for them.

And this(besides turn 2, if you take left side).

Seobit, just a note. Even on spiders we're functionally higher because of our heal debuff.

[Taerra]

SMN does not need a nerf, SMN needs to be brought back to what it meant back in the days. Now it's just a dumbed down affliction warlock with a horn. Don't get me wrong, I love SMN, I just don't like what they did to it in ffxiv. Having a decent nuke instead of ruin would maybe make me less bitter, or enkindle on a shorter timer (or more dmg). I just don't think their style of play reflects the lore. I would love to see the Egi's play a bigger part, and be bigger and badasser (new word!).

Anyhow, if you can get over their style of play, SMN are awesome in long sustained fights.

[Thorauku]

Because there aren't alot of Good summoners out there, and they're not that easy to use compared to the faceroll bards can do.

Yes, I am a bard and I admit that the class itself is a faceroll class, but they don't really deserve a nerf as they suck in damage already.

[Warchild_Zek]

The buff everyone else instead of nerfing thing always sounds nice at first. But its an indirect nerf to all content, which is awful.

[Squa]

Any coil group that runs a great SMN knows they can't be touched right now. The only part where they don't pull ahead of all the other classes is the two spider phases on turn 4, everything else SMN dominates, especially turn 5 which is a perfect fight for them.

what are you talking about? Summoners are weak as hell, I have a SMN and rerolled a BLM since SMN was too difficult/weak.
They have mild utility but I really don't understand why anyone would say a SMN is good.

I was thinking they need a big buff. 30 pot Tr disaster? 40 pot Miasma 2? capped bane, ruin 80 pot. Really bad PET AI we have to work with ..

[Shamirah]

what are you talking about? Summoners are weak as hell, I have a SMN and rerolled a BLM since SMN was too difficult/weak.
They have mild utility but I really don't understand why anyone would say a SMN is good.

I was thinking they need a big buff. 30 pot Tr disaster? 40 pot Miasma 2? capped bane, ruin 80 pot. Really bad PET AI we have to work with ..

It just means you are bad at SMN.

[Exstal]

Many BLM rerolled to SMN :/

[NIRVANA-J]

Ppl just dont know how to use smn correctly. A bit like pentacus who still believes ruin 2 only has an 80 potency. Ill try resume and simplify what damage a smn really can do. gonna leave out the eventual critical hit dammage and just give the minimum i can do to a single mob.
Mine is a lvl 90, still not fully allagan equipped so i can still deal even more damage.

With just a simple rotation i can constantly deal out 770 every 3 sec. Not 170 as Madoka seems to think.

ruin2-180, pet-180, miasma-80, bio-90, bio2-80, thunder-80, shadow flare,80.

every minute and can also deal 1700

2 festers-1700, energie drain-300

[NIRVANA-J]

not fogetting that i can use raging strikes every 3 mins which ups my dmage by 20%, rouse and spur which up my pets damge by 80% every 2 min. Or than i can deal bane which puts miasme, bio and bio2 or all nearby mobs, which is good followed by fester which takes 700 off them all. And of course the fact that i deal blind,disease,bind,virus and heavy and an odd 1000 enkindle now and again. And last but not least the critical hits which can push fester up to 1200.

so all in all i dont think i do bad, but i admit, bad smning is easy, got to keep concentrated to keep everything going.

And as for bad pets (squa) u tell them, they obey. Bad owner=bad pets. I have done WP smn runs, no tank no heal in 15Min. If you dont use your pet right, u die, use them right and they are really usefull.