Why does no one complain about Summoners?

[Benaire]

so you are right they do both have it.

[BrandoH]

The answer is simple. The same idiots who cried about BRDs being OP haven't seen the content in which SMNs shine.

But BRDs being nerfed makes little difference, the party still needs one of us even if we lose 10% of our DPS. If SMN were to be nerfed, I couldn't say the same about them.

[Taerra]

ok sorry not to sound like a troll but it's bugging me ... it's RUIN and not RUNE.

[Hooplahs]

DOT is gimped in parsers tho...

[T0rin]

As someone who plays nothing but SMN, I hope they don't ever improve the combat log so that SMN damage can be fully parsed.

[Jay9]

If your proof of summoners "out damaging" everyone else's class is from a parser, then your proof is invalid due to the DoT calculating glitches. Bard still out dps's a summoner.

[FUNgineer]

Yea Summoners feel pretty weak overall, no need to nerf us

[Zer0mr]

If your proof of summoners "out damaging" everyone else's class is from a parser, then your proof is invalid due to the DoT calculating glitches. Bard still out dps's a summoner.

LOL! You can't be serious right now. BRD does the least DPS of the DPS jobs. Hell, even Warrior does more DPS than BRD does. Have you ever seen a REAL SMN in action? I don't mean those guys on titan that die 40 times just to try to get the relic. I mean somebody Who casts the right rotation. Festers. Aetherflow. Ruin. Control's their pet. You can't be serious.

[Shikiseki]

Why am I the only one that complains about the 2 useless cross-skills from the archer? xD
That said, there's no need to nerf Summoners, due to the stigma of bad DPS, there's only a handful left.
BUT - I do talk a lot of fancy stuff in my FC about Summoners, now we have like 5 or more and I was the only one for like 3 months xD

[T0rin]

I think he means that Surecast is useless, too.

I mean, it is.

I've only used it a few times seriously. It's only useful if you ever need to hard-cast a rez, or when running to the stack for Fireball(twintania),

For sure... but to quote him...

Why am I the only one that complains about the 2 useless cross-skills from the archer?