Why does no one complain about Summoners?

[xardus]

nerf summoner? lol i just saw this post LOL
well im a good player with summoner and i have very good dps compared to other fc friends but...all other dps are a little superior (yes gear count)
in another point of view smn need a very very little buff,well not a buff but some fixes
yes we have pet and can do dmg ourself but...pet is part of our dmg,u shouldnt shout "NERF THAT CLASS NERF THAT CLASS" untill u played it at high level, yes have fester,but seriously need 9 seconds to cast all dots and can be done 3 time in a min ,obviously in short fight,on long fight u have to use sometime some atherflows to gain a little of mana,dots are not cheap as u think

u cant use only potency to compare classes,monk 180 potency dont deal same dmg of another pot 180 of another class,u have to watch the right dmg

biggest critical with fester i did is around 1150 (usually crit at 1000 with a normal dmg around 700\750) pet supershot has 5 min recast and do around 350 dmg and using both pet buffs add 80% EVERY 5 MIN LOOOOL
if u see they have to nerf smn (instead to fix) there are just some cases
1)u are a blm and u are not very good in play ur class so a smn has higher dmg
2)only smn u have seen are overequipped
3)u really dont know how smn works


edit : i forget to say,smn has a rotation wich includes about 13 skills to manage costantly,watching at dot counter ur aether charge and reset time of aetherflow,pets buff split buffs aoe dps and of course 4 normal dots (dont count miasma wich is usefull only in t4 coil) difference on blm mage wich use mostly the same 5\7 skill costantly

[Squa]

gotta agree, SMN is about 2x harder to play than a BLM

[Orophin]

I think the change to Bards is more necessary for PvP more than anything. In a PvE setting they'll get crushed by a boss if they overaggro. I've never cared for PvP changes slipping into PvE, but in this case it kinda has to be done. Besides, it doesn't sound like they're changing Bards mechanically, just changing their cross-class abilities as to reduce their damage some, as it wouldn't be fair to have all of those abilities that raise your damage and still be able to "gun on the run" from people in PvP.

I've played summoner a bit and it requires a lot more micromanagement than any other class I've played. (I'm sure scholar requires the same level of play by micromanaging your pet if you choose to do so) Sure, I could just let my pet do whatever it wants, but I'd be playing less than optimal if I did so. I've deferred to playing BLM over SMN just because it's easier and still puts out competent damage.

[Sylari]

Only trouble I ever have in that regard is with Garuda leaving steady and getting overzealous with her cooldowns before I notice. Usually I just mash obey repeatedly as soon as a fight starts to make sure she doesn't misbehave and that tends to work fine.

[Madoka]

If she's on Steady she shouldn't do a damn thing until you tell her something. So if you have her on steady and then use Contagion she will set to Sic. What you should do is steady her on summon and press Obey at the start of the first encounter. She'll stay in obey until she gets re-summoned or you specifically hit sic.

[T0rin]

If she's on Steady she shouldn't do a damn thing until you tell her something. So if you have her on steady and then use Contagion she will set to Sic. What you should do is steady her on summon and press Obey at the start of the first encounter. She'll stay in obey until she gets re-summoned or you specifically hit sic.

She'll only set to Sic after you use Contagion if she was on Sic before Contagion. If you Obey, kill some crap, Steady, Contagion, she will be on Obey still. You only need to set Obey once, and all the back and forth between Steady and Guard will not change whether she is on Obey vs Sic, she'll stay on Obey.

If someone ever says they used Contagion and Garuda went into Sic mode, it means Garuda was in Sic mode to start with.

[Bieberhole69]

Why complain about something that benefits your group?

[Kevee]

Why complain about something that benefits your group?

Not saying SMN needs a nerf, but you can't continually buff things.

Power creep and all that.

It doesn't matter if it benefits the group if it's detrimental to the game.



I mean, having god mode is beneficial to the group, but does that make it right with the intentions of the game?

[Lunavi]

Why complain about something that benefits your group?

I can tell that summoners being way to good good does not benefit me in anyway as I am competing against them for party spots. If they where way out of water better than BLM that would lead to me never getting into raids at all. But I guess that is something a Paladin does not have to think about right now considering almost all pugs wants two of you and 0 of your opponents, warriors.

But yes, this is why people complain. Everyone wants to gear up their mains you know.

[Madoka]

Yeah, but I think it's safe to say if his went from steady to Sic, she was already on Sic before lol