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    Marauder Lv 50
    I force a semi speed run on people when tanking , I'll pull to bats , then 2 more groups + 1 tom , then 2 groups to boss . If BLM in group I would skip trash but 90% of the time they are sleeping themselves and don't sleep .

    So many times ive had to fight first boss with adds because of dumb BLM.

    However if someone complains about me going to slow I will give them speed beyond their wildest dreams , and they will die .
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    Genjisamurai's Avatar
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    Renzo Genji
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
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    WP Tanks take note. This is how its done when you duty finder it. Also you have to be a terrible healer if you cant heal 2 groups of mobs... It really takes no effort in a semi-speed run which I consider a quick run which I do all the time.

    I think the confusion with people here is speed, quick and normal. OBV with speed run you would have a full geared party with relics... otherwise you are just wasting your time. I shout for speed runs in toll. A quick run is pulling two groups which cant burden anyone if you have an aoe dps there. Now if you have a party with two melee jobs then by all means do a normal run which would be killing mobs where they are not pulling extra. This thread is filled with a bunch of cry babies...
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    Jaidyn Sinclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    *cry cry wah wah* This thread is filled with a bunch of cry babies...
    Firstly, this thread was started about forced SRs in DF. you came in here and dropped your 2 cents. You are the one that is not understanding the topic. Tonberry's to birds>beetles to pugils+grease>then to the door does not equal a SR. that is a normal run. This is about people DFing and expecting/forcing SR type pulls. Under-geared tanks running from the start to the mobs after the beetles(usually before swiftcast+prot & ss can be cast) then bitch cause they wipe. can I heal that. HELL YES! do i want to heal that with an nearly fresh 50 tank and possible fresh DPS. No. That is what we are saying, nothing about hating efficient runs
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    Tetragrammaton - I guess I should heal that tank now.
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    Genjisamurai's Avatar
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    Renzo Genji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seezur_Undies View Post
    Firstly, this thread was started about forced SRs in DF. you came in here and dropped your 2 cents. You are the one that is not understanding the topic. Tonberry's to birds>beetles to pugils+grease>then to the door does not equal a SR. that is a normal run. This is about people DFing and expecting/forcing SR type pulls. Under-geared tanks running from the start to the mobs after the beetles(usually before swiftcast+prot & ss can be cast) then bitch cause they wipe. can I heal that. HELL YES! do i want to heal that with an nearly fresh 50 tank and possible fresh DPS. No. That is what we are saying, nothing about hating efficient runs
    Ok then my bad. I thought this was about people hating on efficient runs. If the tank is fresh 50 and people are forcing speed runs meaning pull 4+ groups then thats just retarded.
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    Zedine Zafir
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    I force a semi speed run on people when tanking , I'll pull to bats , then 2 more groups + 1 tom , then 2 groups to boss . If BLM in group I would skip trash but 90% of the time they are sleeping themselves and don't sleep .

    So many times ive had to fight first boss with adds because of dumb BLM.

    However if someone complains about me going to slow I will give them speed beyond their wildest dreams , and they will die .
    WP Tanks take note. This is how its done when you duty finder it. Also you have to be a terrible healer if you cant heal 2 groups of mobs... It really takes no effort in a semi-speed run which I consider a quick run which I do all the time.

    I think the confusion with people here is speed, quick and normal. OBV with speed run you would have a full geared party with relics... otherwise you are just wasting your time. I shout for speed runs in toll. A quick run is pulling two groups which cant burden anyone if you have an aoe dps there. Now if you have a party with two melee jobs then by all means do a normal run which would be killing mobs where they are not pulling extra. This thread is filled with a bunch of cry babies...
    I'll make sure to take note next time I DF WP and I get 3 people in AF because WP is the next progression, I will pull and play as if they know what a speedrun is when I can tell they barely started lvl 50 content by the message that appears "you have people new to this duty". I will pop sprint and run to boss gate. Expect them to hit boss and sleep mobs while the mobs get locked out and I can continue my speed run. This is a great idea. And nothing can go wrong and if it does it's because they are bad and of no fault of my own.

    Oh and saying that the minimum I should do is ask if a speed run is ok, makes me a cry baby, and my ego is hurt so I cannot do that.
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    Last edited by Zedine; 11-28-2013 at 06:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedine View Post
    I'll make sure to take note next time I DF WP and I get 3 people in AF because WP is the next progression, I will pull and play as if they know what a speedrun is when I can tell they barely started lvl 50 content by the message that appears "you have people new to this duty". I will pop sprint and run to boss gate. Expect them to hit boss and sleep mobs while the mobs get locked out and I can continue my speed run. This is a great idea. And nothing can go wrong and if it does it's because they are bad and of no fault of my own.

    Oh and saying that the minimum I should do is ask if a speed run is ok, makes me a cry baby, and my ego is hurt so I cannot do that.
    Its a completely different story if there are people new to the duty...
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    Zedine Zafir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    Its a completely different story if there are people new to the duty...
    Saying you have a different stance depending on the situation is a completely different story.

    Glad you can see that things differ. The issue is people trying to force runs. If there is no issue with it people wouldn't complain. I dont complain when every one is on their A game and they try and pull everything because I know the full allgana WHm can holy nuke/heal and keep me and himself alive while the double BLM burst things to oblivion where to be honest i just spam flash all day.

    The issue is when people try and force it when it shouldn't.

    I did a Pre run where people barely hit 50 last night and people wanted to see cutscenes, and a dragoon started complaining. Hell want a speed run?, make a pre made. He then pulled a boss to cut off people from cutscenes to trigger the next ultimately locking out people on boss fight then he left half way through the fight leading to a wipe.

    Luckily we had great players with top gear helping the new guys and we made a very drawn out annoying encounter into a fun one, good jokes, and just being friendly.
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