Item Level too high

[Amyas]

And that sucks... why? I don't understand.

Well, it may not to you, personally I don't want to see gigantic numbers that have no meaning clogging up my gear stats, all for the sake of derps that don't feel like comparing stats, or memorizing what gear is better :T
"durr this piece of armor has 15 vit, dan dis un has 17 vit, I JUST CAN"T TELL WHICH IS BETTER UNLESS I LVL!!!!111!"

[ufufu]

Well, it may not to you, personally I don't want to see gigantic numbers that have no meaning clogging up my gear stats, all for the sake of derps that don't feel like comparing stats, or memorizing what gear is better :T
"durr this piece of armor has 15 vit, dan dis un has 17 vit, I JUST CAN"T TELL WHICH IS BETTER UNLESS I LVL!!!!111!"

They do have a meaning; it's the strength of the piece of gear. ilvl 90 > 80 >70, etc., it's quite simple and rather efficient. And I'm not even going to bother responding to your "quote".

[Amyas]

They do have a meaning; it's the strength of the piece of gear. ilvl 90 > 80 >70, etc., it's quite simple and rather efficient. And I'm not even going to bother responding to your "quote".

You know what else shows you the 'strength' of the gear? The stat numbers. Ilvl may be 'efficient', but its also babying and sad.

Item level isn't some arbitrary cosmetic number.

The entire code base for items revolve around it's level to determine stat caps.

i.e. if a developer wants to 30 STR on an item, he HAS to raise the item level to the appropriate level get it.

I just can't wrap my head around this. Why do we need to see the number then?

[Pellegri]

You know what else shows you the 'strength' of the gear? The stat numbers. Ilvl may be 'efficient', but its also babying and sad.

You know how those stat numbers are determined? The ilvl and how it determines the stat "caps" on each piece of gear. To change ilvl would mean to change the stats on every piece of gear or even rebalance everything in the game to make up for the loss of stats everyone will have due to ilvl being lowered.

[Amyas]

You know how those stat numbers are determined? The ilvl and how it determines the stat "caps" on each piece of gear. To change ilvl would mean to change the stats on every piece of gear or even rebalance everything in the game to make up for the loss of stats everyone will have due to ilvl being lowered.

Okay, I suppose I get it a bit more now. I'm not calling for ilvl to removed, or lowered, my first post in this thread was saying 'its too late now'. What I'm saying is it shouldn't have existed in the first place imo.

[zdub303]

Okay, I suppose I get it a bit more now. I'm not calling for ilvl to removed, or lowered, my first post in this thread was saying 'its too late now'. What I'm saying is it shouldn't have existed in the first place imo.

As a player, you should never call for a developer to display less information. That's a horrible attitude imo.

ilvl exists in pretty much every game as a metric the developer uses to determine the strength of each item and the stat budget they can put on it. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean its not there. Its also a large part of this game considering materia assimilation and melding, and ilvl requriements for dungeons (which is good thing!!).

You can say it shouldnt have been displayed in the first place but in the end if the developer doesnt do it, the players will do it themselves.

[Wolf_Gang]

What I'm saying is it shouldn't have existed in the first place.

It's really difficult to manage over a thousand items without a system of accountability. Items level is a proven and reliable system as most developers use it item-intensive games.

It really kind of blows my mind why this bothers people.

[Tiraelina]

It's really difficult to manage over a thousand items without a system of accountability. Items level is a proven and reliable system as most developers use it item-intensive games.

It really kind of blows my mind why this bothers people.

Numbers scare people don't you know. Why else would they replace them with utterly useless bars?

[Wolf_Gang]

I just can't wrap my head around this. Why do we need to see the number then?

Most games actually hide it from the players, but we do need it to determine what materia drops from assimilating.
Also in 2.1, content will have an average item level requirement.