Item Level too high

[zdub303]

Item Level progression makes it so vertical....this game needs more horizontal progression ; ;

Can't really have horizontal gear progression with gear only having basic stats. All it would end up being is that you have a lot of useless gear and 1 BiS setup that is theorycrafted the best through stat weights. Horizontal gear progession won't work with the game as it stands, they need to add non-stat attributes first.

[Babydoll]

Can't really have horizontal gear progression with gear only having basic stats. All it would end up being is that you have a lot of useless gear and 1 BiS setup that is theorycrafted the best through stat weights. Horizontal gear progession won't work with the game as it stands, they need to add non-stat attributes first.

That is exactly my point I was hoping someone would point this out ^^ I want our 1.0 stats back...that was a start in the right direction.

[zdub303]

That is exactly my point I was hoping someone would point this out ^^ I want our 1.0 stats back...that was a start in the right direction.

One step at a time. They seem fairly conservative atm, don't want to make any huge mistakes. I'm sure the game will get there but it'll take time. I suspect we won't see horizontal gear progression until the first or second xpac.

[Armond]

That is exactly my point I was hoping someone would point this out ^^ I want our 1.0 stats back...that was a start in the right direction.

Even then there is going to be a BIS set in this game that makes horizontal progress not work, the only reason it worked it FFXI and stuff was the armor swapping/necessity of buffing every action separately. And I for one am glad we don't have that silly armor swapping anymore.

[Ryios]

This game is like wow. When they come out with an expansion the first piece of gear you get at the new cap will be better than your best in slot from the last cap. Everytime an expansion drops it will be a completely new gear farm where nothing you had carries over. If anything you might be able to use AF2/3 etc as entry level gear for dungeons in the new expansion.

Oh and when it comes out, all the new raids will make people stop running the old ones.

At least, if the continue on track, thats what I bet will happen. I don't want this to happen, but that's how wow was. Every new expansion was a mad dash to rush through it before the next expansion came out and the previous expansion died.

[Amused]

I don't mind as long as we don't get health and damage numbers over 10,000. It scares me that we already have people at 6,000-7,000.

[DoctorMog]

ilevel can go on forever. It has nothing to do with physical player level.

And don't assume they need to be near each other for any reason.

At level 70, who cares if we have itemlevel 450?

[Awrini]

I hope you are aware that warriors can already get upwards of 11,000 as of right now.

[Amused]

I hope you are aware that warriors can already get upwards of 11,000 as of right now.

That's disappointing to hear. For what purpose do the numbers need to be so large at such an early point in the game's life?

[saber_alter]

That's disappointing to hear. For what purpose do the numbers need to be so large at such an early point in the game's life?

thats...with full item level 90 gear, party buff, defiance, and thrill of battle too. (possibly food as well, and max vit allocation)

so its not a default number, without buffs, warriors have similar hp levels to paladins. their class skills give them the big numbers.