[dev1079] PVE and Battle System Suggestions

[Peregrine]

Square Enix has to choose if they want to be a world leader in quality and value like the makers of Guild Wars are happy to be if SE doesn't want it, or if they want to keep producing low production value, high profit margin games like The World Ends With You and more iphone games.

Square Enix has adopted NASA's "cheaper faster...just as good" strategy, but unlike NASA who has had great successes with that mantra, all of Square Enix's products have fallen off cliffs or forgotten to carry the 1.

And all that's left are products that are just...missing big somethings. If TWEWY feels like it's missing something epic...hello. It's not a RPG. It's a text adventure with a battle engine.

You can't cut corners like that forever. TWEWY is a good product. It is not a good long term strategy.

And that strategy, I fear, comes straight from the president of SE. You can't keep lowering production value like this. Guild Wars isn't. No one else is.

[SinMassfx]

Square Enix has to choose if they want to be a world leader in quality and value like the makers of Guild Wars are happy to be if SE doesn't want it, or if they want to keep producing low production value, high profit margin games like The World Ends With You and more iphone games.

Square Enix has adopted NASA's "cheaper faster...just as good" strategy, but unlike NASA who has had great successes with that mantra, all of Square Enix's products have fallen off cliffs or forgotten to carry the 1.

And all that's left are products that are just...missing big somethings. If TWEWY feels like it's missing something epic...hello. It's not a RPG. It's a text adventure with a battle engine.

You can't cut corners like that forever. TWEWY is a good product. It is not a good long term strategy.

And that strategy, I fear, comes straight from the president of SE. You can't keep lowering production value like this. Guild Wars isn't. No one else is.

Really good point.
Square Enix needs to keep this quality across ALL of their products, this provides consistency and trust can follow. It just seems of late that Square Enix have fallen off the end trying to spread themselves too thinly with greedy hands. This concept is backwards and definatly not future proof. Production quality ALWAYS has to come first and if your on the ball the rest will naturally follow.
Please dont make us have to drop the post ''We'll go Guild Wars 2/better mmo and save you guys (Square Enix) the hassle and stress of good production quality so that you can concentrate on your money problems'' (Kind of backwards eh!? 0.o)
Please make this statement invalid Square Enix!
Bear in mind this is a progressively saturated/faster market and you don't get 2nd/3rd chances compared to 8 years ago.
You know what you have to do!!!

[MeowyWowie]

Agree with OP. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The ONLY game SE has to worry about is GW2. Everything else is just copies of what's already out there. Everything about GW2 looks promising. I'm not a big fan of the look of the UI or that its F2P, but those hardly matter considering the rest. If there's any "WoW killer" in development right now, this is likely it. If any game pulls me away from XIV, GW2 will be the one to do it.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Agree with OP. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The ONLY game SE has to worry about is GW2. Everything else is just copies of what's already out there. Everything about GW2 looks promising. I'm not a big fan of the look of the UI or that its F2P, but those hardly matter considering the rest. If there's any "WoW killer" in development right now, this is likely it. If any game pulls me away from XIV, GW2 will be the one to do it.

I wish GW2 was the only one.

Check out this one:
http://archeage-online.com/

Elements:
- Races other than the same old crap: even races that can seamlessly go from biped to all fours while running.
- Players can build ships together or solo... and then sail them... and then shoot cannons from them... at other ships... without requiring a PVE instance...
- Players can build their own homes
- Mostly all of the terrain is traversable (You can even climb the freaking mountains in the distance...)
- You can swim
- You can climb ropes and operate cannons in AND out of PVE events
- You can create VERY unique looking characters at character creation screen: You can even resize and move tattoos around as well as recolor them.
- Dynamic Battle events
- Very good looking high quality graphics
- Jobs which utilize some VERY cool looking effects: First that comes to mind is a mage that summons a giant rock hand from the ground to HOLD a mob in place while the mage attacks another target of that set of mobs.
- Music: The music is actually pretty nice. It is obviously Korean and seem to be very ethnic which is peaceful at times.
- so much more to name but it would be idiotic to list them all
BEST PART: Everything mentioned and SEEN in the videos on their site... ALL this awesome stuff... IS CLOSED BETA!

Wait: You mean to tell me a CLOSED BETA is this much better than FFXIV?

How is that even logical? FFXIV is a RELEASED game...

Trust me... after the several months since I started playing FFXIV (CE release) I STILL find myself asking that SAME question.

Message still stands: SE step it up. You got Koreans AND Americans developing MMOs which make your product look like a little kid ate a box of crayons and crapped it out onto a High Definition piece of paper.