Make BCB lockouts account wide [dev]

[Ryios]

My flame suit is cold:



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All I really want is for SE to acknowledge a point of view on the lockout regarding their multi class system and to own up to the fact that leveling an alt is outside the intended play pattern for the player base.

[WiseWolfHolo]

so I can steal more loot that someone else deserves.

Running it with your already static party of 8 on alts gives who loot they deserve? Also, more alts doing it means there are more parties running it so melee DPS can stop making QQ threads about not being taken to coil.

All I really want is for SE to acknowledge a point of view on the lockout regarding their multi class system and to own up to the fact that leveling an alt is outside the intended play pattern for the player base.

How is leveling an alt, "outside the intended play pattern for the player base exactly?"

[Ryios]

The game's designed to have every class on one character. What's the point in that if you need an alt to be able to rerun content. The design of the class system encourages one way and the design of the lockouts encourages the other.

As such, in my opinion based on my observations, I can conclude that SE never intended for us to Level alts to rerun BCB and they didn't consider that as part of the equation when they decided to put the lockout on BCB in the first place. What I would like is for them to take a stance on this issue, e.g.

Either:
A: We are aware alts can rerun BCB when their mains have done it already and this is working as intended.
or
B: We are aware of this issue, but have not yet decided how to handle it.
or
C: We are aware of the issue and will make the lockout account wide.
or
D: We are aware of the issue and we will be adding a loot lockout system to BCB to alleviate the need to do this.
etc etc etc.

[Reiterpallasch]

The game's designed to have every class on one character. What's the point in that if you need an alt to be able to rerun content. The design of the class system encourages one way and the design of the lockouts encourages the other.

I'll just go ahead and quote myself from one of the many other threads about alts and such:

How is it not designed to be that way? Just because you can do everything on one character, doesn't mean that's the correct/best/only way. If anything it's more designed for alts than 1 character. Why?

• For starters you can level multiple characters to 50 significantly faster than trying to get those 50s on one.

• Each character will be building it's rested exp while you play on others.

• Each character will have it's own pool of levequest allowances.

• Each character will have access to all of the games quests again, instead of burning through them once and never again.

• Each character can be unique and let you see the game from a different point of view via races, genders etc.

• Each character can see different starter story lines that you'd otherwise miss out on.

• Each character has it's own inventory and retainers. As everything is spread among multiple characters, you have more than enough room for your items instead of needing to hoard them all on one.

• Each character can have it's own stat point allotment without needing to spend seals to get the full benefit out of jobs (Such as the SMN/SCH situation)

I can see crafters benefiting from a single character though, since it relies so heavily on cross class abilities. But that's something you can do on just one of many alts anyways.

[WiseWolfHolo]

Again, I have an alt to run BCB with my already main group, mostly out of boredom, but SE will say this is intended. Why is this? It hurts nobody, they still get money and they do not want to tick off their player base into leaving over something so minimal to no existent of a problem. Also, players that level alts to do BCB again can help FC and pugs since they already know the mechanics and alts also allow those to get more experienced at potentially changing the already current strats. Still I believe if you take the time to kill yourself over the span of a week to redo the story just for that soul purpose then go for it because they way I see it, after 4 hours on Monday I am bored out of my mind.

[Ryios]

Also, players that level alts to do BCB again can help FC and pugs since they already know the mechanics and alts also allow those to get more experienced at potentially changing the already current strats.

I don't think we should have to level another character to do this. We should just be able to go on another job. It's the same exact concept.

1: Level New Character, run BCB, Get gear on both (likely two different jobs)
or
2: Allows us to rerun on another job, Get Gear

Method 2 would actually be better because you can only cap myth once. I don't care about myth, I just want to be able to run BCB on more jobs and I think it's messed up that we have to level a new character to do it.