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    Loot Lockout

    The issue that has been bugging my FC, as well as many of late--Raid Lockout in Binding Coil of Bahamut. I understand this is to alleviate the possibility of rapid gear acquisition and to keep those players who are working the hardest to be at the final tier raid spots, but it's doing more harm to groups than good it would seem. It seems to defeat the purpose of a Free Company with everyone forming statics of eight instead of being able to switch out or replace members easily as needed.

    The thought that's gone around is "Loot Lockout" instead--enabling players to access the Turns that they've reached in the existing manner, but if the Turn has been cleared for the individual character already then they receive no drops from clearing that boss again. This helps out many FCs, like mine, form the family environment we so long for rather than have the clique type feel that causes so much needless drama.

    Would this be at all possible, even in the future?

    Thank you!
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    This is really too exploitable for selling runs, unfortunately. I wouldn't expect it to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valanthe_Liadon View Post
    This is really too exploitable for selling runs, unfortunately. I wouldn't expect it to change.
    Given the rampant selling of Titan HM runs that still goes on, somehow I think SE doesn't care about this aspect. I think they're just too busy (or just don't really care) to bother with implementing a loot lockout as opposed to a character lockout. It's a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiliteOrin View Post
    Given the rampant selling of Titan HM runs that still goes on, somehow I think SE doesn't care about this aspect. I think they're just too busy (or just don't really care) to bother with implementing a loot lockout as opposed to a character lockout. It's a shame.
    It may very well be the difference of opinion the developers have regarding raid content, but in regard to selling runs I'm certain that players exist with the philosophy of "Everything has its price". Loot carries exist, as noted on Twitter, so there are certainly negatives. Restoring value to FCs outside of PUG+1s to gather static members from seems worth the while. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valanthe_Liadon View Post
    This is really too exploitable for selling runs, unfortunately. I wouldn't expect it to change.
    Ugh, this idea needs to die.

    It's complete garbage and has no legitimacy. Please, stop White Knighting for SEs absolutely miserable design choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Ugh, this idea needs to die.

    It's complete garbage and has no legitimacy. Please, stop White Knighting for SEs absolutely miserable design choices.
    There are plenty of bad choices when it comes to SE and raiding (8 man groups, no premades for CT) but having a lockout on the hardest content isn't one of them.
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    There are already a number of groups selling Turns 1 through 4 on Gilgamesh. It's only a matter of time before it gets to Titan levels.
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    I am an advocate of such a system. Even if it can be exploited to sell runs, that's up to the discretion of the players who want to sell runs and players who choose to purchase runs. Even then with such a huge loot table in place per boss, it's impractical to purchase exact items. I want to see something that would allow me to include others instead of exclude.
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    This is a major flaw in the game at the moment. Charging over 150kgil a run is Crazy. Im sure the gil they get is used to sell for real cash to Websites and gold spammers. I believe players that make cash off of this mmopg should be banned. Because the gil is used to profit Square. They are a business and they need subs and profits to make our updates. Lots of Fcs are charging rediculas amounts. I also wish u would ban all the Gil spammers im tired of blacklisting up to 50 names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
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    That idea was more to benefit SE and prolong subs, it'd be more work and kind of annoying to users. :3 It'd help crafty groups prevent the usual, "Oh man, another piece of DRG gear AGAIN?!" ...Not that I'd particularly mind more DRG gear. ;D I actually had one of my LS mates, who was there on trial for the FC, tell me, "Well, no group does Coil when I can that I want to join so I guess I'll take an invite." Gee, thanks for the display of interest and loyalty. FCs right now have that feel--there's almost zero ability to lure people in outside of existing members that might have more of a draw to their friends than other friends do.

    Quote Originally Posted by jc500 View Post
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    You might want to check the topic you've posted in, sir.
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