BLM Rotation

[Makado]

I'm a newer BLM, 2nd job, anyways just wanted to see if I can do any better. As of right now for single target I do Fire 3, then Fire until I'm down on MP then Blizz 3, Lightning 3 then back to fire 3 -> fire (using the instant free fire3 when up). Multiple targets I'm not sure what's best, fire 3 to fire 2s or just spam blizzard? Also I'm not sure on how to add in or work flare correctly (is it any good on single target also?) Thanks for any pointers!

[KittenJitsu]

All I know is you cast Flare at the end of your fire combo when you have convert up. So Fire 3 > Fire 1 > Low Man Flare > Convert > Swift Cast Flare > Blizzard 3 > Light 2 > Fire combo again. Use light 3 for the procs and fire 3 obviously for it's proc.

AoE you can spam fire 2 till low for SC flare. Then blizz 2 or wait with blizz 3 > fire 3 > fire 2 combo.

[KrazyKupo]

For flare I just Fire 3, Fire 1, Fire 1, Fire 1, to about 1k or sometimes less, swift cast, Flare, convert (transpose if convert isn't ready), Blizzard 3, Thunder 3, Fire 3 seems to work really nice, even better if you have the damage boost ability from archer you will pump out some massive damage on crits.


I've seen a lot of debates on the best aoe blm rotation, just depending on the mobs and lvl of content your playing, Fire 3, Fire 2, Fire 2 I prefer to use Bliz 3 to cycle back up feels faster to regain mp to me. Blizzard 2 spam works okay as well withough having to cycle your mp back up as in the method using Fire 2.

Thats the basics I use but I'm not in Coil or anything crazy like that so I'm unsure of the mechanics and best rotations to use there, but with what I've used this basic rotation you should have no problems. Also virus is a great ability to pick up. I hope this helps!!

[Makado]

Cool it looks like I was on the correct path. Just wanted to make sure thanks for the information!

[Urielparadox]

Bliz 3 -> fire 3 -> flare -> transp. -> b2 -> b2-> f3->flare -> repeat. is the strongest aoe rot. however it puts you in danger of aoes, so if your in wp pulling pugs and slime, be careful. Doing wp runs this helped speed up time quite a bit. You can also read several of the blm rot. forums that all talk about this rot. and others. 1 target rot ppl argue T2 >T3 just for procing since the DoT is barely a leg up from T2. cast T2 to get T up, use Tstorm on T3. But the argument is that the .5sec cast time extra on T3 isn't worth the Extra 4 sec of T up time, which is an xtra fire/less time casting T/an add. chance of a TS proc. So the argument holds little when looked at with logic, and have yet to find # proving T2>T3. Be aware most rotations assume perfect scenarios ie you will get a Tstarter proc by the time u have to recast T2. If this happens T2 first is stronger is correct. However the very moment T2 doesn't give you a proc during it's 1st cycle, that statement is incorrect.

[Mhaeric]

I'm a newer BLM, 2nd job, anyways just wanted to see if I can do any better. As of right now for single target I do Fire 3, then Fire until I'm down on MP then Blizz 3, Lightning 3 then back to fire 3 -> fire (using the instant free fire3 when up). Multiple targets I'm not sure what's best, fire 3 to fire 2s or just spam blizzard? Also I'm not sure on how to add in or work flare correctly (is it any good on single target also?) Thanks for any pointers!

I would replace Thunder 3 with Thunder 2 in your rotation for the faster cast time, since the DoT portion is the same less one tick and the initial damage is only slightly smaller. You can use Thunder 3 whenever your lightning DoT procs. Start with Thunder 2 as an opener and on small groups up to three, it can be a good idea to cast Thunder 2 on all your targets as it helps the tank build hate on your primary target and gives you more opportunity for procs. Only spread Thunder to multiple targets at the opening if you do it at all. In the middle of the rotation, a single Thunder is all you should do. Anything over 3 mobs you don't want to use Thunder at all and just do your AoE rotation.

Some people cast a Blizzard 3 before their very first Fire 3 and Fire to take advantage of the faster cast speed for both those opening spells. Swiftcast the Blizzard 3 to make this especially useful. Without swiftcasting it, it's not as useful an opening so I don't bother with opening Blizzard 3 if swiftcast isn't available and go right to Fire 3.

With 3 mobs exactly it is about the same doing single target vs. AoE rotations so it depends on what your tank can manage. Pick whichever works best for your situation. If you have 4 mobs, then AoE spam is definitely the fastest. The best AoE rotation is Flare spamming. Open with a Blizzard 3 and Fire 3 on the primary marked target. Cast Flare. If convert is up, then use it and cast Flare again. Transpose. Blizzard 2 twice, and then start over from Fire 3. Swiftcast can be used either on a Flare or before the first Blizzard 3 to get the reduced casting time for the first Fire 3 and Flare. My preference is to use it on the converted Flare, and then when convert is not available on the opening Blizzard 3.

If you have to be at range, then substitute one Blizzard 3 instead of the two Blizzard 2 casts. This will also mean it is only most effective on groups of 4+, so if you have to be at range in a group of three mobs, just use your single target rotation instead.

Tips for AoE: Use quelling strikes near the start of your rotation. Before the first Flare at least. Use Manawall (and/or possibly Manaward) when you get close to pulling hate. I.e. Anticipate its use before you need it. You'll get a good feel of when to use it. Rotate targets for your Fire 3 casts. This helps spread your hate more evenly and helps to make it so all the mobs die closer together in time. Don't use Transpose too soon after you cast Flare. If you use it too soon, it will transpose you from Astral Fire to Umbral Ice before Flare lands and then when Flare lands it will transpose you back to Astral Fire leaving you with no mana, no mana regeneration, and 12 seconds before you can use Transpose again. I've derped a few times with this.

[Urielparadox]

Everything I stated in the post above you but with the improper thunder information

You didn't really add anything new except telling him the break point for aoe vs single target and you obviously didn't read anything the person who posted before you stating the same thing you did, by about 30min earlier. Also you spouted of the T2> T3 by using the incorrect and improper logic that I warned against in my post and gave no reason for why this faulty logic is superior.

[dragonflyseksparade]

Bliz 3 -> fire 3 -> flare -> transp. -> b2 -> b2-> f3->flare -> repeat. is the strongest aoe rot.

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[Malevicton]

lawl ugottabetrollinbro

Naw he's got the right idea actually

[PessimiStick]

Replace F3 with another Flare, and he'd be right. At least until they nerf it.
Flare --> Flare --> Transpose --> B2 --> B2