Thread: 2.1 Steel Cyclone, Not Enough

Originally Posted by Garnatian

Only difference between the two is the 5% in Effective Healing, which is made up by their vastly superior mitigation abilities and their smaller, but constant self-heals. Though we won't know the difference until they release how much Storm's Path mitigates.

Again, your gripes and side discussion isn't for this thread. This is a discussion on Steel Cyclone, and its usefulness come 2.1. Current discussion brings it in line with SE's planned changes for IB, and none more. If you find other balance issues with Warrior 2.1 buffs, go discuss them in threads made for such talking points. This isn't a PLD vs. WAR thread, it is a discussion on Warrior abilities.

I have deleted my previous responses in an attempt to be respectful, something we should all try to be.

Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

I have deleted my previous responses in an attempt to be respectful, something we should all try to be.

Since the announcement and subsequent discussions concerning the upcoming patch, you've been constantly respectful and polite. Thanks for being awesome.

OT: I kind of like Paikis' suggestion. It is a bit strange to use an AoE ability against a single target, but I'm up for anything that helps make Steel Cyclone see more frequent use. I'm hesitant in asking for anything more right now though. We're already getting some huge improvements and they've only got so many resources etc.

Originally Posted by Marleytiva

OT: I kind of like Paikis' suggestion. It is a bit strange to use an AoE ability against a single target, but I'm up for anything that helps make Steel Cyclone see more frequent use. I'm hesitant in asking for anything more right now though. We're already getting some huge improvements and they've only got so many resources etc.

You are hesitant to ask for more, but Paikis' suggestion asks for best of both worlds doesn't it? Good heal when you want it (OP low end content) and 20% DR we are asking for with 2.1 change. This would just lead to picking and choosing for best content. Which would be SC on most BC content, and Self heal for low end content where you can basically solo bosses. I like the idea of normalizing things a bit more, and as I said above, making SC effective AoE like IB is for ST isn't asking for *more* in mitigation sense. It is asking for the same thing, while making SC viable. I guess I concede we are asking for 1 GCD less for the 20% DR.. Trolol

Regardless of 'feel' if I can get 20% DR from one ability that happens to be single target, I'm going to use it for AoE situations as well, because the alternative is just a bit of damage and some threat, both of which i already have no problem with. Something needs to be added to Steel Cyclone that isn't just more threat, because quite frankly I'm already drowning in threat and any more at this point is a wasted bonus.

Giving us the choice between the DR and a heal seems like the best way to go. We can't have both, so it would give a meaningful choice. As it stands I'm only going to use Steel Cyclone for looks in town, because for anything that matters, I'll be using Inner Beast.

Originally Posted by Paikis

Regardless of 'feel' if I can get 20% DR from one ability that happens to be single target, I'm going to use it for AoE situations as well, because the alternative is just a bit of damage and some threat, both of which i already have no problem with. Something needs to be added to Steel Cyclone that isn't just more threat, because quite frankly I'm already drowning in threat and any more at this point is a wasted bonus.

Giving us the choice between the DR and a heal seems like the best way to go. We can't have both, so it would give a meaningful choice. As it stands I'm only going to use Steel Cyclone for looks in town, because for anything that matters, I'll be using Inner Beast.

You haven't read a single post in here have you?

Originally Posted by Phreak

You haven't read a single post in here have you?

I was responding to a post in this thread, so yes, I have read it. Have you?

imo I think it should apply fracture on all targets after use so it could be used with blood bath for a bunch of small heals to help keep you up.