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    Quote Originally Posted by Azyurel View Post
    Typical White Knight replys.
    Haha I can assure you I'm no white knight, but I also don't just believe everything I read on here. I went through several of the links posted and none of them have any proof. Do you actually expect the devs to take this seriously without giving them any proof? I'm sorry but if the general population of players is unaffected, which seems to be the case to me since not a single person in any of my LS, FC, Flist have ever even heard about this, they aren't going to take you seriously unless you can prove it. What do you think they're going to do? Individually investigate accounts on a case by case basis and try to find a problem that possibly doesn't exist? Give some proof and I'll take this seriously but don't spout off nonsense about being a white knight when I have a long list of REAL issues that I want addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Haha I can assure you I'm no white knight, but I also don't just believe everything I read on here. I went through several of the links posted and none of them have any proof. Do you actually expect the devs to take this seriously without giving them any proof? I'm sorry but if the general population of players is unaffected, which seems to be the case to me since not a single person in any of my LS, FC, Flist have ever even heard about this, they aren't going to take you seriously unless you can prove it. What do you think they're going to do? Individually investigate accounts on a case by case basis and try to find a problem that possibly doesn't exist? Give some proof and I'll take this seriously but don't spout off nonsense about being a white knight when I have a long list of REAL issues that I want addressed.
    There were a few with screenshots of the log files. That is as much proof as they can provide after the fact without actually duplicating it on a youtube video. Also your perceived REAL issues are REAL issues because they impact you...this is perceived to not be a REAL issue for you, because it hasn't impacted YOU. If it did I bet you'd sing a different tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azyurel View Post
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    My "perceived REAL issues" are real because they've been proven with evidence on the forums and/or confirmed by the devs. Some of them don't effect me at all, I just think they should be addressed. You seem to make an awful lot of assumptions without any information to go on so I'm not surprised you believe this with nothing to go. You're totally correct in assuming that I would be singing a different tune if it was effecting me, but it's not and it's also not effecting anybody else I know. A video would be a great source of proof, if the issue is so common then I would imagine with the amount of people who stream/record this game it will come up eventually but until I see that I don't see why devs should waste time with it. How would you fix this problem? The devs aren't RL mages, they can't make a solution appear out of thin air if they never see the problem in the first place and it doesn't effect the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    My "perceived REAL issues" are real because they've been proven with evidence on the forums and/or confirmed by the devs. .
    A couple of those are in the accepted bug section and we were told it's being looked into. The problem is that support still thinks it's a player fail problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeva View Post
    A couple of those are in the accepted bug section and we were told it's being looked into. The problem is that support still thinks it's a player fail problem.
    But is it? are there any videos demonstrating the bug in question? don't get me wrong, its not that I don't believe you, its simply that if it indeed is a prevalent bug, it should be easily repeatable and capture in video as empirical evidence that it isn't due to player fault, negligence or carelessness. I guess thats the argument some are trying to make.

    But looking through the SS, it does seems rather odd, if it indeed is a prevalent bug, it needs to be fixed ASAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Haha I can assure you I'm no white knight, but I also don't just believe everything I read on here. .
    I'm sorry but the body count is proof enough for me that I didn't make a mistake. Which is why I gathered all the evidence I need here. If I rolled a die 16 times in a row and it lands on a 1 every time, I'm either extremely lucky or I'm cheating.

    What's your purpose here? To respond by calling me a liar just by asking for this to be looked into? Great you accomplished your goal but it won't stop me from trying to reach mine. And your problems aren't real to me as it hasn't happened to me or either of my friends. I don't even know what your problem is. Just know it doesn't exist to me. Can simply move along you've already satisfied yourself by saying I and 15 other people are lying.
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    Last edited by Takeva; 11-28-2013 at 11:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeva View Post
    What's your purpose here?
    My purpose here is to express my thoughts and opinions, what's your purpose here? I thought this was a discussion forum, if you're simply complaining then post it in the feedback section where people won't give you as many opinions. I don't think that this is a big issue, I've never seen it, heard of it, experienced it, nor do I believe it. I believe the amount of time it would take for devs to simply find this issue would be ridiculous, if it even exists in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    My purpose here is to express my thoughts and opinions, what's your purpose here? I thought this was a discussion forum, if you're simply complaining then post it in the feedback section where people won't give you as many opinions. I don't think that this is a big issue, I've never seen it, heard of it, experienced it, nor do I believe it. I believe the amount of time it would take for devs to simply find this issue would be ridiculous, if it even exists in the first place.
    LOL fine express your opinion. I just realized you're probably looking to up your post count. Thanks for helping to bump my thread though~!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeva View Post
    LOL fine express your opinion. I just realized you're probably looking to up your post count. Thanks for helping to bump my thread though~!
    Thank you for understanding, I'm not trying to be rude or even call you a liar. It's possible that this could have happened to you, I just don't want devs wasting time searching for a needle in a haystack and I'm bored while I work out of town in the evenings :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    I don't think that this is a big issue, I've never seen it, heard of it, experienced it, nor do I believe it. I believe the amount of time it would take for devs to simply find this issue would be ridiculous, if it even exists in the first place.
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