Paladin BiS Accessory Reddit Discussion

[WowSuchName]

Melded Darksteel Scutum HQ:
Block Rate = 77
Block Strength = 265
VIT = 7
ACC = 6
Parry = 8
Skill speed = 8
Determination = 6

Holy Shield:
Block Rate = 167
Block Strength = 167
STR = 8
VIT = 8
Skill speed = 7
Parry = 9

I don't think Darksteel shield stand a chance vs Holy Shield. It is like 6ACC for too many lost.

Unless we are comparing if Bulwark kick in...

[saber_alter]

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i think i will stick with my consistent block rate over time rather than rely on a skill...

[JohnC2k2]

Melded Darksteel Scutum HQ:
Block Rate = 77
Block Strength = 265
VIT = 7
ACC = 6
Parry = 8
Skill speed = 8
Determination = 6

Holy Shield:
Block Rate = 167
Block Strength = 167
STR = 8
VIT = 8
Skill speed = 7
Parry = 9

I don't think Darksteel shield stand a chance vs Holy Shield. It is like 6ACC for too many lost.

Unless we are comparing if Bulwark kick in...

You are also not adding it's overmelds in.

[JohnC2k2]

It compares myth/allagan since they're the top tier ilevel equipment at 90. gryphonskin/darklight/darksteel scutum are ilevel 70. While you can meld the crafted ilevel 70 stuff to be possibly stronger than darklight, it won't catch up to ilevel 90 just because of the raw strength/defense differences even if you can get higher secondary stats.

Although if you want you can always insert more rows to compare between even more equipment pieces.

You should probably check the reddit discussion and make your own opinions after. I think the gryphonskin accessories are much better than people give them credit for.

[WowSuchName]

@JohnC2K2, i think this is over-melded already. I took the number from xivdb.com but the number there could be wrong too.

[Jahaudant]

I'm sorry, but that just isn't true. I have gotten quite a few melded accessories and my threat generation is so much better now. Being a giant hp sponge isn't going to do anyone good when your DPS are ripping aggro off of you.

Why is this even an argument? If you can't hold threat over a DPS you clearly have issues besides your gear.

I can strip my 30 VIT PLD half naked and still hold a mob off a full i90 Bard who doesn't know what Quelling Strikes is. In fact, in turn 4 I tank two mobs being targeted separately by a full i90 BRD, and a full i90 BLM. Even splitting my skills between them it's damn childs play to maintain threat on both.

The only possible job that you can realistically rip threat off you is a WHM and that is only if they aren't doing their job, or you aren't doing yours.

[Garnatian]

I'm sorry, but that just isn't true. I have gotten quite a few melded accessories and my threat generation is so much better now. Being a giant hp sponge isn't going to do anyone good when your DPS are ripping aggro off of you. STR affects flash potency and of course your DPS. Having tanks that are able to put nice numbers up is useful for so many encounters in coil including Twintania, to think like this is just pure ignorance.

If you're having threat issues with +1, you're terrible. Mitigation is the first are foremost priority of a Tank.

Gearing is boring in this game and far too simplified, especially when coming from a game like SWTOR where you'd whip out the spreadsheets to find out what stats are optimal.

[JohnC2k2]

@JohnC2K2, i think this is over-melded already. I took the number from xivdb.com but the number there could be wrong too.

very much so. All the numbers are wrong on xivdb. I know it fits 4 Dex also.

[Churchill]

Why is this even an argument? If you can't hold threat over a DPS you clearly have issues besides your gear.

I can strip my 30 VIT PLD half naked and still hold a mob off a full i90 Bard who doesn't know what Quelling Strikes is. In fact, in turn 4 I tank two mobs being targeted separately by a full i90 BRD, and a full i90 BLM. Even splitting my skills between them it's damn childs play to maintain threat on both.

The only possible job that you can realistically rip threat off you is a WHM and that is only if they aren't doing their job, or you aren't doing yours.

Complete exaggeration, lol.

Regardless of how good a person is, a full i90 Bard has more burst capability than anyone. If you are holding initial threat in a fight it is because they will it.

[TekkaTakeda]

Why is this even an argument? If you can't hold threat over a DPS you clearly have issues besides your gear.

I can strip my 30 VIT PLD half naked and still hold a mob off a full i90 Bard who doesn't know what Quelling Strikes is. In fact, in turn 4 I tank two mobs being targeted separately by a full i90 BRD, and a full i90 BLM. Even splitting my skills between them it's damn childs play to maintain threat on both.

The only possible job that you can realistically rip threat off you is a WHM and that is only if they aren't doing their job, or you aren't doing yours.

And then reality happens.