GRIN says SE sucks..

[Randis]

so...

Where are all the FF Killer? IF SE sucks so much, where are all the ultra awesome companies who make so much better RPG for the consoles?

revolutionize Final Fantasy? No thank you, i like FF for what it was. There are some titles in the series that lack fun but that is my personal opinion. Many people bash the latest titles, ok, most of them never played FF1-6 and start from 7. For me FF 1-6 was best. It is called personal taste. The last offline title did sell well, cant be that bad. Some people like the latest titles a lot more then the old titles. You can not please everyone.

Having a over 25 titles strong series of titles is IMPRESSIVE, beat that first.
Show me finished titles, i dont want hot air.
Seen it so often, 'Bla bla bla, we have the next FF killer... Game comes out... shiiiit

It is only natural that one should not change a product too much unless you want to angry the core fans but what can i do? can't keep making FF on Super famicom standard.

And bashing clients in public is just stupid, especially if you have nothing to show and can't deliver.
All the wannabe FF slayer
First they need to make a IP series that sells nearly as well or better, talk is cheap.

[Elexia]

You guys defending SE are nuts.

Seriously, people need to get the *** off the "you're defending.." just because you're not also bashing them..good lord people not everything is defending lol.

[Cutriss]

Man, I can't believe some of you are watching this tech video saying "Oh, that's not Final Fantasy", etc. It's a tech demo. It's like saying that a fetus doesn't look like its dad. And anyway, there's some well-known concept art out there from Fortress which definitely makes the game look like it had some good promise. The malboro is quite "epic", as one puts it.

Not saying that the information is false but using a "wiki" as a source is not a fact. But i'm sure you are wise enough to know that.

Well, normally in those instances, we have what we call "references", which are external sources that can be used to validate the content of the article.

I believe one traditionally finds these "references" linked via footnote at the end of documents that use them.

[Elexia]

Sadly, the quality of SE's game is really diminishing...

FF7 -> AWESOME
FF8 -> great
FF9 -> epic
FF10 -> excellent
FF11 -> best mmo (imo)
FF10-2 -> errr...
FF12 -> ugh...
FF13 -> meh...
FF14 -> holys***wtfbbq!

FF7 = Fail
FF8 = Great till the open ended ending
FF9 = Best FF ever.
FF10 = Excellent
FF10-2 = Excellent, the story was soso, but the gameplay was great.
FF11 = What a FF MMO should be, so great
FF12 = Excellent
FF13 = Excellent
FF14 = TBD.

It's all subjective because people who dislike FFXIII yet liked VII failed to realize FFVII was as linear as it was in terms of story, it only had the illusion you had freedom, it wasn't till (surprise) the middle/end of the game you had absolute freedom to complete anything you wanted beyond main storyline.

Just like there's people out there who hate Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Seiken Densetsu 2 and 3 and Romancing Saga..all known to be great titles. Also in between those games are other games people liked, e.g TWEWY and Kingdom Hearts.

[Black_Rose]

well, i liked FFXIII just as much as i liked FFVII just as much as i liked FFIV.
i actually haven't played a FF yet where i had a feeling of my hands getting numb of playing a boring RPG.
well, i didn't own FFX-2, but only because i didn't want the cool ending of FFX to get destroyed by a lame sequel (why does every game need a perfect ending anyways, what's so bad with open endings? leaves place for imagination and speculation!)

[Nuru]

fixed.

Seen the techdemo video of Fortress, was not impressed

I think that fix you made was more of how it went.

There is something similar to this, like the CCorporation making a .Hack Online game, and CCorp. is taken directly from the .Hack series. If the developers of this MMORPG were to make it nothing like .hack, this same shit would happen.

[Frebaut]

The desert area looked cool and they had Choco to ride.

[Malakhim]

well, i liked FFXIII just as much as i liked FFVII just as much as i liked FFIV.
i actually haven't played a FF yet where i had a feeling of my hands getting numb of playing a boring RPG.
well, i didn't own FFX-2, but only because i didn't want the cool ending of FFX to get destroyed by a lame sequel (why does every game need a perfect ending anyways, what's so bad with open endings? leaves place for imagination and speculation!)

The 100% complete ending does kind of ruin FFX and the whole theme of FFX-2, which is actually pretty deep when you get passed all the superficial stuff.

I still hate Hedy Buress' voice acting though.

[Jinko]

so...

Where are all the FF Killer? IF SE sucks so much, where are all the ultra awesome companies who make so much better RPG for the consoles?

Mistwalker / Sakaguchi produces better games than SE, if he had the resources and budget SE have his games would be so awesome it would make your head spin.

I would actually say something like the Tales of series is better than most Final Fantasy games these days.

Altus produce better games than SE also, SE just bring lots of flash and bang with some shiny these days and that's about all.

The only games that sell massively for SE are Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, without those two franchises they would be less than average.

[Nuru]

I would actually say something like the Tales of series is better than most Final Fantasy games these days.

Motoi Sakuraba. Nuff said.