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  1. #21
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    Griever2003's Avatar
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    Endra Ochiudo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WowSuchName View Post
    Hey Griever2003, is it possible to add information on Melded Rose Gold Earring & Melded Gryphon Skin accessories under gears section?
    The reason that I am hesitant to add this gear is precisely because they need to be melded. If i am to add those pieces of gear will I have them calculated as melded with rank IV materia or rank III and below. The stats can vary, maybe not dramatically, but the added variable of differentiating gear based on the melded materia is a bit much, and in some cases is subjective.
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    Last edited by Griever2003; 11-27-2013 at 03:00 AM.

  2. #22
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    Adam Jensen
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Griever2003 View Post
    Determination = Parry
    Can you explain this moment? Have some ideas but not sure.

    And thank you for the guide. It was realy useful for me in a few cases.
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  3. #23
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    Taj Sigil
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 41
    Thank you for the guide, especially that user interface video. I play on pc but use a game controller and your macro set ups seem ideal.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamko View Post
    Can you explain this moment? Have some ideas but not sure.

    And thank you for the guide. It was realy useful for me in a few cases.

    What is being stated here is that on the scheme of how gear is ranked, from BiS on down, that determination and parry carry the same weight.

    **EDIT**

    Hey Steamko, I never thought to explain why those are weighted the same, but Pixelshader basically said that i should. They are weighted the same because you can differentiate between a mitigation(parry) tank or a damage dealing threat (det) tank.
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    Last edited by Griever2003; 12-05-2013 at 12:25 AM.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitsou View Post
    I would like to ask for your help in the aoe rotation.
    My current equipment is Relic (+1Shield), Darklight armor (Chest: Valor Surcoat & Helmet: Hoplite Circlet).
    In Raids I have absolute no problem, but in WP, AK runs with multiple mobs i lose aggro often.

    Can you pls advice?
    my rotation is this: Shield Lob - Spirits Within - RoH - Flash.
    and i keep using flash until my mp are down. then i start doing the combo that gain mp back (Fast Blade - Riot Blade) when i have enough i use Flash (and RoH if CD is over).

    but most of the times one or two mob will take bigger aggro from the BLM aoe attacks.

    At first i thought that it was BLM fault cause he doesn't pay attention to mana bar and doesn't stop the aoe till i am half full again. but BLM told me that he had other runs with other PALA and he hadn't any problem! even better they pulled larger group of mobs to finish the dungeon faster. so the problem must be in me and the rotation i am using.

    Hi fitsou,

    I think WowSuchName is alluding to the correct point , but I think that you may be missing the fundamental mentality in your rotation. At the very beginning of a pull with multiple mobs the key piece is that you need to generate enough hate accross all mobs so that your healer's nor DPSs generate more hate than you.

    The healers generate what I like to think of as AOE hate and the DPSs if doing AOE attacks generate hate on more than one mob. You have the start of the Multi-target rotation but before you go into RoH you probably want to do CoS and flashx3-4 and then move into Halone combo or Riot Combo depending on the situation. The focus of your combo hits, i.e. Halone Combo, should primarily directed at your #1 targeted mob and then spread out to other mobs lacking in hate generation(mob taking alot of damage) while still getting a flash in almost every time you use Rage of Halone and inserting Circle of Scorn every time it is available.

    The mentality of single target tanking and multi-target tanking are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

    Pleas let me know if you have more questions or would like more in-depth explanations on a specific piece of the multi-target strategy. I would also recommend watching the WP speed-run video by Zeus Laser listed in the Videos section as it gives a great visual example of multi-target tanking while multiple AOEs are being used.
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    Last edited by Griever2003; 12-05-2013 at 02:28 AM.

  6. #26
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    Thank you for keeping this up to date griever.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaloBraker View Post
    Thank you for keeping this up to date griever.
    You are welcome! Thank you for reading. I have lots of work ahead of me for the 2.1 patch.
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  8. #28
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    Clive Hawkins
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    Paladin Lv 90
    HQ La Noscean Toast is no longer best in slot when you hit iLvL 86-90.

    Vitality: +15 (Allagan Sword may raise this to +16. It's extremely close.)
    Parry: +23 (Allagan Sword may raise this to +24. It's extremely close.)
    Accuracy: +9

    Thus, HQ Finger Sandwiches are currently better then HQ La Noscean Toast by 1 Vitality. Yes, spending 2-4k more for 1 point of Vitality is extreme but it still makes it the best in slot. And when the Allagan Sword becomes i95 there's a possibility you'll get two more Vitality and one more Parry over HQ Toast.
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  9. #29
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    Imapooonu's Avatar
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    Drain Bead
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I just wanted to say good job. I am bowing for you

    I plan on taking my Gladiator from 34 to 50 one day, now I know where to reference.

    Thanks a bunch ^^
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  10. #30
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    Zyromus Lionheart
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    Needs a sticky. Love the info.
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