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    Endra Ochiudo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    VI. References
    These are simply links where a lot of my data was gathered. Feel free to visit them and draw possibly draw your own conclusions.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/f...657-Tank-Roles - Information to build a general consensus on how the Paladin community is tanking
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forums/155-...Theorycrafting - Information to build a general consensus on how the Paladin community is tanking
    http://www.daevaofwar.net/index.php?...sjob-analysis/ - Another great guide that beginner information this guide assumes you already know.
    https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...flash_testing/ - Discussion on what affects flash, also contains diminishing returns on stacking STR.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...LD-Bonus-Stats - a discussion on STR vs VIT
    http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=231 - A table that contains abilities along with their enmity multipliers
    http://xivdb.com/ - An item database that sometimes contains comments on drop locations.
    http://mooglebox.com - A now decommisioned database that contained loot drop locations.
    http://www.ffxivinfo.com/ - A what appears to be an up and coming resource site for FFXIV.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ob2hnWHc#gid=1 - Information on accuracy caps.
    http://chocobro.com - great theorycraft website.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ipment-Planner - Jahaudant's Paladin equipment planner.
    Comparison Worksheet A modification of Jahaudant's Paladin Equipment Planner.
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  3. 11-26-2013 02:40 AM
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    a1. Archived Updates
    Below I will list old/outdated updates.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pixelshader View Post
    Announcement
    As of 11/04/2013 I have canceled my subscription. The game itself is lackluster and somewhat boring. I also found myself losing reaction time, rapid eye movement, and other skills due to the game being so slow and simple. I will keep updating this post until, I believe Dec 4th, after that my account will be canceled. If you wish to follow me into other games, feel free to PM me on www.youtube.com/pixelshader.

    Updates:

    11/22/2013:
    • Griever has reached out to me about taking this post over. When he makes a thread under his name I will link it here so that information can still reach the community.

    11/13/2013:
    • Corrected a typo in the BiS chart on the gear post as found by Altimis

    11/08/2013:
    • Added a really helpful speed run video for Wanderer's Palace to the videos post. It will help you get those mythos ASAP. This video was made by Zeus Laser, tons of thanks to him for submitting this content.

    11/03/2013:
    • Updated the link to Jahaudant's Paladin equipment planner in the references post. This post has a lot of great work in it. It helps you be very precise your spending and rolls on gear.
    • Fixed some formatting issues in the abilities post as found by Segoris.
    • Added a new section in the macros post called "Miscellaneous Macro Commands". Saw some good input from Segoris and Nonlinear314 so that information is documented in this location.
    • Added turn locations on Binding Coil drops to the gear post as notified to me per Soulburn32.

    10/27/2013:
    • Added a video on User Interface and Macros in the videos post.
    • Added Jahaudant's Paladin equipment spreadsheet to the references post. This spreadsheet is an extremely useful tool that can help you select gear and see the repercussions of said gear choices. Many thanks to him for creating this.

    10/23/2013:
    • Updated the drop location of Allagan Legs in the gear post as submitted by Viray.

    10/22/2013:
    • Heavy changes done to the gear post.
    • Replaced "Your first Allagan Tombstones of Mythology" section with "Best in Slot"
    • Added some awesome tables created by Jahaudant . Many thanks to him.
    • Raised the accuracy requirement from 472 to 475.
    • Added a caution when looking at the tanking gear list. Please take note of it.

    10/21/2013:
    • Been MIA a bit. I plan to upload more videos asap. Interface one is about half way done.
    • Updated the macros post to note that you must manually replace the apostrophes with double quotes when using copy and paste.
    • Fixed a typo on the abilities post as found by MutantMonkey. You only need to be level 26 to gain Mercy Stroke, not 28.
    • Also changed the verbiage on Provoke within the abilities post to prevent any unintended misinterpretation as brought up by Gopher113
    • Added Chocobro.com as a resource in the references post. Some great theorycrafting can be found here.

    10/11/2013:
    • New post type added! There is now a Videos post. I would like to thank Gray Spy for giving me direction on how to make these videos.
    • Added a video on AOE Tanking and Chain Pulling
    • Added a video on Single Target (Boss) Tanking.

    10/10/2013:
    • New item type added to Gear post!
    • Consumables are slowly being added, currently I have added Food. The ordering has some requirements so please read carefully. Massive thank you to Viray for contributing this information in a well formatted list so it can quickly and easily be added to the compendium.
    • I added a "Your first Allagan Tombstones of Mythology" section that answers the reappearing question of "Where should I spend my Allagan Tombstones of Mythology?" It is very opinionated and fits into my play style, but perhaps it will give you some sort of direction should you question your own path to becoming an endgame tank.
    • Updated the Cover macro in the Macros post to have a better targeting mechanic as reported by PiedPiper

    10/09/2013:
    • Complete overhaul on the Gear post. Found some hard data on accuracy.
    • Updated the stat weights in the to include my findings. Due to these changes, I augmented the gear list to have letters signify it is an accuracy/mitigation/enmity piece.
    • Quoted the source in the References post where I found the accuracy cap data.

    10/07/2013:
    • Finally got Conjurer to 34 and personally verified the use of Stoneskin.
    • Updated the Abilities post to include further elaboration and a use case for Stoneskin.

    9/17/2013:
    • Gear post items now link out to their respective listing on http://xivdb.com/.
    • Reordered some gear to better match Paladin stat weights.

    9/16/2013:
    • Fixed some gear ordering errors in the Gear post as reported by OptimusPrime.

    9/10/2013:
    • Updated the drop location of Darklight Macuahuitl in the Gear post as reported by Carth.
    • Many other drop locations have also been updated.

    9/8/2013:
    • I received tons of feedback in regards to Fracture and Shield Swipe. I elaborated on them a bit in the Abilities post.
    • More information on when to use certain cool downs was added to the Abilities post.

    9/7/2013:
    • Added Allagan tome prices in the Gear post.
    • Added a source link on where I drew a concensus to choose VIT over STR on the References post.

    9/6/2013:
    • Added Cross Class level requirements on the Abilities post per smokingbluntsallday's request.
    • Added a "Use case" line items to the Macros post to answer the question raised by Raen Ryong.
    • Completely changed the layout of the Rotation post to show that Paladin uses a Priority system rather than a step by step script as requested per Churchill and Irvy.
    • Added information on what data I gathered from the websites stated on the References post.
    • Corrected a typo on Foresight in the Abilities post as found by Kuishen.
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  5. 11-26-2013 02:41 AM
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    Galactimus's Avatar
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    Clive Hawkins
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    7,100 HP as a Hyur Highlander. Such a nice number. Think there's one more Vit to be had if you're a Roegadyn but really... the sacrifice just isn't worth it (^_^)v
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    Has anyone thought about how the Gryphonskin accessories fit into BiS? There's a lot of discussion going around about getting full Gryphonskin accessory sets and then socketing the tank stats in so that you get something like 5 maxed stats. I can get a link from Reddit once it's not down for maintenance, but what I was reading was that it allows you to get ~3% more chance to block/parry for 1% more damage. You lose about 360 HP as a tradeoff, but you gain 45 strength for more damage/threat. It seems to be that a lot of tanks are going this route for Twintania but I don't feel like the 3% chance to block/parry for only 1% damage is really worth it. There has been a lot of discussion about it within my FC and I'm curious what everyone thinks about it.
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    Cynthia Vonspeculum
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    Can anybody give me a good buff rotation for heavy damage single mob (BOSS) encounters.

    When he has >= 2 stacks I've just been using Rampart ---> Convalescence --> Foresight .[note i wait until the buffs go out before using the next one] and save Sentinel/Bulwark for 3+ stacks/desperate situations.

    I'm not sure if i am using my cooldowns effectively, i know the above strategy works pretty well for Ultima but I am new to tanking in Coil (as DRG is my main)

    can anybody offer any advice?
    I assume you're talking about Caduceaus, so I typically start with Bulwark as it's the most RNG-based cooldown and, thus, less reliable than the other flat mitigation cooldowns and then move to Rampart -> Foresight+Convalescence -> Sentinel+Awareness -> Hallowed Ground -> Awareness. I typically end with Awareness as it seems to be the least effective cooldown available and, hopefully, Cad should be dead by then. But, if it's not, the damage he's putting out at 4-5 stacks is such that a wayward crit will almost definitely drop you at that point.
    Only other time I really use cooldowns on full rotation is the two Juggernauts on Turn 4, which should really start with Hallowed Ground so your party can get themselves situated during the phase change and then run the Cad rotation in reverse 'cause if the first Juggernaut isn't down by the time your cooldown rotation ends then you don't have the DPS for Turn 4 and you don't need cooldowns for one Jug.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serneum View Post
    Has anyone thought about how the Gryphonskin accessories fit into BiS? There's a lot of discussion going around about getting full Gryphonskin accessory sets and then socketing the tank stats in so that you get something like 5 maxed stats. I can get a link from Reddit once it's not down for maintenance, but what I was reading was that it allows you to get ~3% more chance to block/parry for 1% more damage. You lose about 360 HP as a tradeoff, but you gain 45 strength for more damage/threat. It seems to be that a lot of tanks are going this route for Twintania but I don't feel like the 3% chance to block/parry for only 1% damage is really worth it. There has been a lot of discussion about it within my FC and I'm curious what everyone thinks about it.
    I think the jury's still out on the Gryphonskin vs. Allagan/Hero's debate. There's a lot of different data going around ranging from new discoveries to downright herp-derp misinformation, so I'm personally withholding judgment on that until there's some more clear data out there. Honestly, though, it really doesn't seem like it makes enough of a difference for me to care one way or the other. I don't think the difference would even be noticeable. Go with Allagan/Hero's if you end up with enough myth and an Allagan ring drop or go with the Gryphonskin melds if you have the absurd quantity of gil required for such an endeavor. I, personally, don't think the damage is worth it. It won't even be noticeable and it's not our job, anyway.
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    Gabriel Dieudonne
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    Masamune
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    Carpenter Lv 38
    So, now that the Second Coil of Bahamut and Allagan tomestones of soldiery exist, the tables should probably be updated.
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    Evana Fisher
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    Hey Griever2003, is it possible to add information on Melded Rose Gold Earring & Melded Gryphon Skin accessories under gears section?
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