Repose in dungeons?

[Aphrini]

First off I say if there is no BLM there to sleep and you are the only sleep at low level dungeons sleep the adds, just do it, take control of your pt you are the healer you are not theirs to command you are there to keep them alive. Frankly if you are low level and are sleeping it means you have no BLM, if you have no BLM at those lower lvls you really lack the AOE firepower to DPS as a group effectively early on you also lack the healing potency and abilities to effectively cover your pt. Your party, your responsibility, your tank, your healing rules you don't want to risk it, DON'T. In the end remember who they will be crying about if their body hits the floor regardless of what you do or do not do. I had a tank once that did NOT want regen on him at any point regardless, ok well that's his call, his job and his responsibility so I rolled with it. Chin up you got this, do whatever you feel is right to keep your pt alive, that is your torch to bear.

[Maku]

If no BLM I use it. I love it. My CNJ is only 34 but even when I run with a FC BLM friend we chat and each sleep a different mob to make it even faster/safer. It is just another tool to be used when appropriate. ^^ That being said, I have had a few times where there was no BLM and certain pulls have a lot of damage fast. In those cases spam curing has been better and safer than trying to sleep first and then cure.

[TsuchiGnomey]

Repose is great if you are with people who are actually paying attention to the mobs you sleep and don't wake them, but if you pug it varies, some people will like it and some wont. You have to judge if its a good idea to use it depending on the party you are with.

[Aerostein]

Repose is a great ability early to mid-game. Most tanks take so much damage early on, so it helps. Has some uses in a few cases at end game too, if you're doing a normal run and the tank is taking damage at an alarming rate. Unfortunately, even if you do make macros, most people will wake them up regardless.
If I'm to be honest, it's not like most black mages even bother to use their CC anyway, so the CC falls on you in most normal cases.

[Swordphobic]

Just please, don't be obsessive about repose, seen some tank deaths because the healer was busy casting repose instead of healing the burst. If you have a BLM sure, they can do more damage than you, but no one dies if they sleep someone. You on the other hand can cause a tank death if you waste 2 GCDs on repose during pull.

[PetiteMalFleur]

If DPS was sleeping the mobs I assume you had a BLM. They have an aoe sleep and this may be why they told you not to sleep the mobs. Crowd control is great in lower level dungeons. I've use it to keep my party alive, especially when someone accidentally aggros a second pack of mobs.

I've done some dps in CC but quite frankly I usually don't have time in lower level dungeons. Most parties are not overgeared for content at those levels and need the healing support.

[Delvish]

Pre-50 dungeons and at level runs, sleep does really well as does other CC methods. Once people are overgeared, it doesn't matter though and AoEs are much more useful. There are some groups of course where this is not so.
Tank/Heal/MNKs (I'm pretty sure mnk doesn't have much in the way of AoE...)
Tank/SCH/SMN/BLM (SCH+SMN Bane DoTs will not break sleep so BLM can sleep and burn targets 1 by 1 while SCH+SMN DoT to death).
Tank/WHM/SMN/SMN (Same as above, WHM sleeping)
Most other combination of DPS will probably find more use out of AoEs, but particularly in DF not everything is so clear cut. Remember to change and adapt to the setup as each run is different.

[Tzain]

On the subject on AOE, After playing Black Mage and white mage to 50....I still don't get what everyone is so obsessed about.
I mean, if we're talking about a swarm of 5-8 mobs that have low health and need to burn down? (Aurum Vale Seedlings) Then YES! accept no substitutes. But on 3 or less mobs I just don't see the amount of damage done as being that much more useful than just focus firing a target. I did some napkin math and single target with average proc rates of firestarter had about 3 times the potency/second of Fire II and that's not even taking into consideration the mana efficiency and how long your burn phase is. Generally speaking 4 mobs seems like the bare minimum to make fire II worth casting.

If the healer cant contribute to the total damage done because of Fire II breaking CC then that's just a double whammy of inefficiency.

(If memory serves, the potency/second of Fire II was 33, the potency/second on Fire I + Firestarter procs was 99 when adjusted for GCD and % rates.)

Of course, I freely admit to being pretty bad at black magery, so most likely I'm doing it wrong.

[Simaril]

On the subject on AOE, After playing Black Mage and white mage to 50....I still don't get what everyone is so obsessed about.
I mean, if we're talking about a swarm of 5-8 mobs that have low health and need to burn down? (Aurum Vale Seedlings) Then YES! accept no substitutes. But on 3 or less mobs I just don't see the amount of damage done as being that much more useful than just focus firing a target. I did some napkin math and single target with average proc rates of firestarter had about 3 times the potency/second of Fire II and that's not even taking into consideration the mana efficiency and how long your burn phase is. Generally speaking 4 mobs seems like the bare minimum to make fire II worth casting.

If the healer cant contribute to the total damage done because of Fire II breaking CC then that's just a double whammy of inefficiency.

(If memory serves, the potency/second of Fire II was 33, the potency/second on Fire I + Firestarter procs was 99 when adjusted for GCD and % rates.)

Of course, I freely admit to being pretty bad at black magery, so most likely I'm doing it wrong.

This is along the lines of what I was thinking. I was hoping someone might show why AoE is better or worse in a given circumsatance. I'm also afraid that my lack of experience as a Blm means I'm missing something???

[Kal-El]

If people are breaking CC just leave it. No point.

Pre 50 I'd say sleep but warn your tank but you've gotta remember that if you're busting out cures like mad while a mob is asleep it's gonna turn on you straight away. If I see a slept mob and the healer is getting close to stealing hate I'll be comboing that and you can cast repose as much as you like but I won't stop till I'm comfortable with aggro.

Majority of times you'll find it's the DPS that usually break sleep. But remember again a WAR can only fire off a few flashes before he's got to overpower. So maybe wait till he's done that a few times before sleeping?