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    Fire-Dragon-DoL's Avatar
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    Quarion Silverfrond
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    Arcanist Lv 55

    Give us the chance to re-play coil during week (without rewards)!!!

    I'm being bored with this, I want to go with my friends to coil but I'm already bound with my guild.

    This is getting completely anti-social, I can't level up a new character just for the sake of playing coil multiple times during week.

    It's really boring this thing.
    Actually after defeating titan you can't play with friends anymore (dungeon leveling is slow, fate leveling is boring, crafting and gathering is not something you do with friends), basically removing the social part of the game =\
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    Akira Ono
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    From what I understand their main deterrent is they still want Coil gear to be hard to earn. If they removed the cap, people would be selling and carrying people in Coil runs, which they don't want. They already stated they strongly dislike how common it is that people have relic (in thanks to people selling Titan runs).

    I think it's fine as is, and I'm 0-14 in coil drops.
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    I don't care about drops really, but is NUKING our chance to play with friends. We all have done titan, we can't do ANYTHING toghether, they must introduce some mid-level content to fix this or allow us to run coil (without rewards) with others, really we are not doing ANYTHING today, just watching eachother. Why should I even play =\
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    Oura Chansoneau
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    I would actually love this option. There have been so many instances in which I would have loved to help some friends out, but I was already locked out. I don't mind getting locked out of loot, I just want to be able to help people out.
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    Shampoo Leithrit
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    In before "Selling Coil Runs 10 million all drops are yours"
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    Aria Erabith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-Dragon-DoL View Post
    We all have done titan, we can't do ANYTHING toghether, they must introduce some mid-level content
    You mean like Crystal Tower, drops iLVL 80 gear. I'd say that fits your request nicely.
    Also the lockouts are to prevent groups from selling runs or if you have a static running them over and over til all 8 members have drops.
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    Last edited by Wobi; 11-23-2013 at 09:59 AM.
    Just your friendly neighborhood elezen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsi View Post
    In before "Selling Coil Runs 10 million all drops are yours"
    Exactly. Plus, they intentionally DON'T want EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM in a FC that has a T5 group to be fully geared in i90 too quickly. That defeats the purpose of having a hard to get end game item. It's pitiful how many people bought a relic.
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    For me the time required to defeat high level content must be based on boss difficulty, not on blocking people from doing it. That's a really bad way to manage subscriptions. You are scared that people drops subscription when they complete content? That's normal, they will see a drop in subscription after 2.1 because all hardcore players will drop till 2.2 will be out (they have done already turn 5, no point in stay in game for more), but guys, that's NORMAL. Hardcore gamers will always finish the content before you produce new content. They drop the subscription and resubscribe once content is back, this works for WoW too (and if money is the problem, WoW is the most rewarding game EVER).

    Just make the content enough difficult and you don't have to put this horrible thing like limited marks per week (which is indeed TERRIBLE) and limited runs.
    By the way when I said "no rewards" means you can run the dungeon but NO ONE WILL GET DROPS. Why people will do it? Because it's fun, for the same reason I face Titan every time, the fight is interesting.

    And it's also useful because you can train on it.
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    Beliskner Zephyrlord
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I couldn't agree with you more. There is no reason that a large number of players should be punished because we're afraid a few jackasses are going to buy coil runs. I have 2 groups in my raiding alliance that I'd love to play with occasionally, yet can't. This hurts guilds, all in the name of limiting gear. Difficulty shouldn't be based on gear, it should be based on challenging mechanics.
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    My FC has groups doing 1-4 in under an hour. So they drop one dps and drag people through it over and over gearing them up VERY fast....

    Not going to happen.
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