Why is race and nationality ignored so much in the lore? (why does the lore fail)

[Azurymber]

Further i'm saying that the -average- person's brain is not designed to get pleasure from monotonous boring tasks such as walking from one city to another along identical looking pathways without agro mobs. UNLESS its their first time. So if the quests had you explore new areas then there might be a benefit to them. But the fact that they have you walk to places you would normally go makes them fail.
call me not adverage as I take please in this. And i literaly walk in olivion everywhere I go And take pleasure in running around each city aimlessly as i did in ffxi. careto explain why?

If you enjoy meaninglessly sitting in front of a computer and walking through repetitive terrain over and over again it probably means your brain didn't properly develop or you have some sort of mental difference from the average person like an autism spectrum disorder or OCD.
Or you are just a very boring person with a lack of a drive to do anything useful

However if its cities with landmarks, if your doing something else like talking in linkshells while you do it, etc, then none of that holds.

Put another way, the human brain is not designed to enjoy monotonous repetitive tasks that take no skill (so the average person would enjoy a repetitive activity like knitting which takes coordination and thus uses your brain, but not hitting the same button over and over and over and over and over again).
Thats why all modern educational science points to interactivity as the best way to educate someone and not making them mindlessly solve problems on a sheet.

note: everything i said here is -very- simplified so don't take it the wrong way.

[Azurymber]

I though most canadians spoke french? or with a semi weird accent. And before you go I'm dissing yall, I'm french canadian on my mothers mother side. My great granmother /grand mother came from nova scotia. And we still have family up there
(ps what I said is a common joke said even in cartoons)

je parlez francais tres bien ;x

[Gramul]

If you enjoy meaninglessly sitting in front of a computer and walking through repetitive terrain over and over again it probably means your brain didn't properly develop or you have some sort of mental difference from the average person like an autism spectrum disorder or OCD.
Or you are just a very boring person with a lack of a drive to do anything useful

Rude.

note: everything i said here is -very- simplified so don't take it the wrong way.

Oh, well I guess that makes it OK.

[Abriael]

Put another way, the human brain is not designed to enjoy monotonous repetitive tasks that take no skill

Must be why games like pokemon are so utterly unsuccessful, right?

The statement I quoted above must be the king of oversimplified generalizations and it's application to gaming is extramely limited, if not basically non-existant, especially to a genere like MMORPGs, given that many of their mechanics are firmly based on "monotonous, repeatitive tasks that take no skills".

Luckily for us all, there isn't "THE human brain", but "MANY human brains" and the human society isn't hive mind-based.

[Azurymber]

its not rude. Humans have a genetic drive to be productive unless they are on drugs or have a mental difference. If we didn't have a built in drive to explore, build, create, etc, then as a race we would have gone no where.

I'm prob not explaining it right but think of it this way. If you put almost anyone in solitary confinement for over a week, they will lose track of time, and essentially have a mental breakdown.
Our brains are built to "do stuff" and be social.

Same thing happens with the very wealthy. A lot of people who have a lot of money and decide to stop working and just lay around all day (often at a retirement age) experience severe depression as a result.

We just aren't built to sit around and do nothing all day. The average person should get bored of running along a repetitive path unless its stimulating their brain for some reason.

Let me put it another way: How long could you actually enjoy starting a red square? Try it. Draw a red square on a white peice of paper, get really close, and just look at the square. within 10 minutes time should start moving -really- slow. Like 15 min of staring will seem like an hour. And you will prob get drowsy, your mind will wander, you will want to do different things or sleep, etc.

unless your brain is different than the average person in which case depending on the difference a square could be a whole different experience.

but again, this is all really simplistic. Because you can easily argue that there are huge benefits to doing "nothing" like when you do meditation. However, if you actually watched the brain of someone doing meditation you would see their brain working. Whereas someone hitting a button repetitively or holding a button down and walking along identical paths that they have seen 100 times before, will not have much brain activity going on.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Put another way, the human brain is not designed to enjoy monotonous repetitive tasks that take no skill (so the average person would enjoy a repetitive activity like knitting which takes coordination and thus uses your brain, but not hitting the same button over and over and over and over and over again).Thats why all modern educational science points to interactivity as the best way to educate someone and not making them mindlessly solve problems on a sheet.

ok so why are mario and zelda still going strong? Or platformers in general... see little big planat. You spaming the jump button....
Name a game that actually really relies on skill. I have yet played a game that did.

[Cairdeas]

Companies are supposed to fix some of the issues claimed in this thread. Can't wait for Merlwyb to start owning bitches.

[Vesperia]

Abriael, you don't know how to tell a story in a video-game medium.

Wall-of-text never even worked for Star Wars intros.

[Gramul]

its not rude. Humans have a genetic drive to be productive unless they are on drugs or have a mental deficiency. If we didn't have a built in drive to explore, build, create, etc, then as a race we would have gone no where.

I'm prob not explaining it right but think of it this way. If you put almost anyone in solitary confinement for over a week, they will lose track of time, and essentially have a mental breakdown.
Our brains are built to "do stuff" and be social.

Same thing happens with the very wealthy. A lot of people who have a lot of money and decide to stop working and just lay around all day (often at a retirement age) experience severe depression as a result.

We just aren't built to sit around and do nothing all day. The average person should get bored of running along a repetitive path unless its stimulating their brain for some reason.

Let me put it another way: How long could you actually enjoy starting a red square? Try it. Draw a red square on a white peice of paper, get really close, and just look at the square. within 10 minutes time should start moving -really- slow. Like 15 min of staring will seem like an hour. And you will prob get drowsy, your mind will wander, you will want to do different things or sleep, etc.

unless your brain is different than the average person in which case depending on the difference a square could be a whole different experience.

You basically called her stupid/slow/retarded for enjoying repetition more than you do. The average person would think that's rude.

[Azurymber]

Must be why games like pokemon are so utterly unsuccessful, right?

The statement I quoted above must be the king of oversimplified generalizations and it's application to gaming is extramely limited, if not basically non-existant, especially to a genere like MMORPGs, given that many of their mechanics are firmly based on "monotonous, repeatitive tasks that take no skills".

Luckily for us all, there isn't "THE human brain", but "MANY human brains" and the human society isn't hive mind-based.

umm, pokemon is not a repetitive game in any way.

Repetition is hitting the same button over and over and over again for an hour without doing anything else while thinking about hitting that button.
Or holding a button down for 15 minutes experiancing something you have seen 100 times before