No one wants to tank because tanks get all the abuse. I'm a dps and I've seen people be so bloody rude even when it wasn't tank's fault we wiped.
No one wants to tank because tanks get all the abuse. I'm a dps and I've seen people be so bloody rude even when it wasn't tank's fault we wiped.
6 dps would just be insane. As Silver said, no tank or healer would get a party, waiting time long like hell, even worse than for DPS now. And 6 DPS? Why? For dungeons like Sastasha, Brayflox, Haukke, that's completely overrated and you'd finish the thing within the time of a WP SR. I see no point in that.This is the reprecussion of having 4 man parties. 50/50 dps to tank + healer ratio... There is a reason why EQ had 6 man parties. I assume the devs thought 4 man parties would be more casual as they required less players... but honestly all your doing is making it more noticeable when one of your dps sucks, making it more hardcore imo.
They really need to rethink the dps:tank ratio... maybe they should start to make dungeons 1 tank, 1 healer, 6 dps for 'casual dungeons' and 2/2/4 for harder ones.
You want to do Boom boom much then you need to wait long
End of Story!
1 - tanks get insta ques, because game design makes tanking harder - they just plain get all the responsibility. Not enough people want to tank. Healer ques arent super fast during leveling.
2 - flexible party sizes based on what's in the que could be a solution. Lets say the ratio of tank to healers to dps is 1:1:3 they could let parties be bigger and buff mobs accordingly. I don't see any rason they couldn't let parties have 1 or 2 more members, and base the composition on who is registered in df. If tanks suddenly became super popular you could have a 3 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps partyThe problem with this, is it would probably make tanking LESS popular
You know i just became a archer on another server and have noticed that most dungeons so far may wait times average 45 minutes or more.
Rather crazy indeed, so i just go level up while i wait. lol
dont' agree here. I play paladin and dont' think the class hard compared to what I hear about monks. Warriors kind of suck prepatch, post patch we'll see more tanks coming since warriors got big buff. Have only 1 viable tank jobs vs 5 viable dps jobs gonna hurt Q times.1 - tanks get insta ques, because game design makes tanking harder - they just plain get all the responsibility. Not enough people want to tank. Healer ques arent super fast during leveling.
In new patch, roles in short suppply will get bigger bonuses = tanks get more rewards than dps which is necessary. I'm scratching my head on why they allowed 1 bonus/24h/category. FATE grinding is unlimited. DF rewards shouldn't be so hardcapped.
Give lancer a tank job and I'd be all over tanking. Sword and board is boring, axes are goofy, polearms are where it's at. I love to tank but refuse to use a fighting style/weapon I don't find entertaining, so I picked a DPS class. Here's to hoping we get a lancer tank job sooner rather than later.
I imagine I'm not the only person who feels like this either.
Why you get tanks who cba to use flash more than once and single target spam rage with packs. Personally I did ~90% of levelling PLD to 50 in dungeons and leves, only really heavy fate grinded from 48 to 50. Warrior thats at 40 im doing the same. Would like to think it has made me a better tank overall as remember first time I did a dungeon with 2 dot everything happy SMNs + SCH. Started rough, learnt to compensate and cleared pretty well. Which gave me good experience of holding mobs with multiple AE damage going on. Tricks I picked up tanking dungeons on the path to 50 I would not have developed doing purely Fates.The healers and tanks are taking the path of least resistance while leveling up and grinding FATEs. Most of the people you're going to find in DF for leveling dungeons are going to be the minute amount of people who are actually going through the story for the first time.
Brayflox is probably the only dungeon people repeat since it has nice armor sets for each class type.
I'll agree, some do run fates and then proceed to do pretty well at end game. Unfortunatelly many dont.
But in reply to the OP. DPS ques are long because many tanks prefer to run with statics or friends and thus reduces the already smaller number of tanks and healers in the DF ques. Also the truth of what the poster I quoted stated about FATEs, Hopefully the duty roullette will increase the pool of tanks and healers for random dungeons as to get the reward, you need to que solo. But we'll see.
Last edited by Sapphic; 12-17-2013 at 09:05 AM.
For endgame there are several options you have:
1. Go somewhere (typically Mor Dhona) and look for a group (or even start one). I assume this will be even easier with the new DF and Party features released now. (I suggest you queue whilst doing this, just in case you get lucky and the instance pops).
2. Take up crafting, gathering or leveling an alt during DF waits.
3. Farm a crafting material, or materia.
4. Join a linkshell or join a FC and most likely you can arrange a run (multiple linkshells are awesome for this - I'm currently in 4 and was in 7).
5. Socialize - MMO's are social in nature, have a chat, help out a friend, just be an idiot and do something random.
For story based dungeons:
If you are experiencing long waits for a story instance then get out there and do some side quests, immerse yourself in the lore - it can only help to enhance the story you are currently in - and can also help you level/gain experience before the instance.
Alternatively you can do one of the things I mentioned for endgame.
Last edited by Hekmatyar-Koko; 12-17-2013 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Character limit break YYEEEAAAAHHHH
Well i have been queuing now for over 3 hours trying to do titan Story,I can't progress and I am even level 40 so already over the level..yes I am DPS so I understand the queue time can get long but this is a joke ,not being able to progress the main story,yes i am in a FC but they all seem to be only interested in doing all the new quests...so us who are still working through the story are sc*wed..way to go
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