... or like I said, chill out and do something else while waiting. You can't be seriously out of stuff to do? Heck... even browsing internet already works as time killer. lol


... or like I said, chill out and do something else while waiting. You can't be seriously out of stuff to do? Heck... even browsing internet already works as time killer. lol
I understand DPS have longer que times.. but this is ridiculous. I waited in que for 56mins for AV. Seriously, I took a screen shot and everything... Duty Finder was supposed to make it so we didn't have to wait for groups for hours but I find this takes about the same time. Not to mention, I finally get into a group for AV and they cant even take out the first pull without death ._.; ugh. We did finally beat AV but it took almost the entire timer and several deaths. (oh, and I forgot to talk to quest npc first so I have to do it again... yay fml lol)


it matches you with other people, if there is no Tank or Healer to be matched with you have to waitI understand DPS have longer que times.. but this is ridiculous. I waited in que for 56mins for AV. Seriously, I took a screen shot and everything... Duty Finder was supposed to make it so we didn't have to wait for groups for hours but I find this takes about the same time.
What is you solution? The problem is not in DF, problem is that there is just not enough tanks
Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok


Nothing much can be done about the queue times though tbh. It's a problem with the community in the servers which u DF in. If the majority of players in the DF pool that you queue in are playing DPS, with a shortage of tanks and healers, it's definitely gonna equate to longer or impossible DF queue times.I understand DPS have longer que times.. but this is ridiculous. I waited in que for 56mins for AV. Seriously, I took a screen shot and everything... Duty Finder was supposed to make it so we didn't have to wait for groups for hours but I find this takes about the same time. Not to mention, I finally get into a group for AV and they cant even take out the first pull without death ._.; ugh. We did finally beat AV but it took almost the entire timer and several deaths. (oh, and I forgot to talk to quest npc first so I have to do it again... yay fml lol)
Think of it this way:
World A has 30 DPS queueing for dungeon x.
World B has 50 DPS queueing for dungeon x.
World C has 20 DPS queueing for dungeon x.
Then you, as a DPS queue for dungeon x.
You are put in a queue of approx. no. 101.
Assuming each dungeon takes in 2 DPS at one go, you will need to wait for the appearance of 50 tanks and 50 healers throughout all the worlds that are queueing for said dungeon as well.
Of course this is an exaggeration but it's not exactly far off from the truth when you are playing at the peak hours of said worlds.
They're trying to fix this by implementing duty roulette in 2.1 to help people who are stuck with quests that require dungeons.
If you want to have a quick run through the storyline, I suggest going either tank or healer. Tank would be the more ideal choice as there is a definite shortage of tanks throughout all worlds right now.


Have to admit, AV is one of worst example of DFing. In the end, I had to do it with either LS or FC buddies. And since I had to do it at least 3 times, due to me being switching through GC, that's kinda a bit pain in the ass.I understand DPS have longer que times.. but this is ridiculous. I waited in que for 56mins for AV. Seriously, I took a screen shot and everything... Duty Finder was supposed to make it so we didn't have to wait for groups for hours but I find this takes about the same time. Not to mention, I finally get into a group for AV and they cant even take out the first pull without death ._.; ugh. We did finally beat AV but it took almost the entire timer and several deaths. (oh, and I forgot to talk to quest npc first so I have to do it again... yay fml lol)
Thank goodness it's all over now. Each AV for 3 GCs done. lol
How are there people that still don't understand? There are plenty of players playing tanks and healers out there, we're just not using the Duty Finder, since we do not have to. There isn't a "tank shortage" at all, just a shortage of experienced and skilled players willing to carry random newbies in Duty Finder. Stop relying on the Duty Finder to make your parties for you. Yes its there for convenience, but no, it is by far the worst solution to your problems. Instead of waiting an hour for a queue next time, pay a geared player some gil to queue up with you.
Because there are still people like you who don't understand. Why do you keep advocating for paying a tank gil just so they can do the dungeon? People just need to make more friends in an MMORPG where they forgot the Ms because of the DF.How are there people that still don't understand? There are plenty of players playing tanks and healers out there, we're just not using the Duty Finder, since we do not have to. There isn't a "tank shortage" at all, just a shortage of experienced and skilled players willing to carry random newbies in Duty Finder. Stop relying on the Duty Finder to make your parties for you. Yes its there for convenience, but no, it is by far the worst solution to your problems. Instead of waiting an hour for a queue next time, pay a geared player some gil to queue up with you.
Because it is an immediate solution to the OP's problem. Yes you can make friends, that shouldn't need to be said, but chances are your friends have no reason to run you through Haukke Manor either, and you can't always bother your friends or your new FC mates with meaningless runs. I imagine the entire reason people complain about Duty Finder problems is that they don't have friends available who want to run these things either. What I'm saying is, when your friends are not there to run with you, the option to just pay someone else is there. You should never resort to the Duty Finder, and if you do you should know what you're in for in terms of queue times and player conflicts.
Opportunity cost. The time you spend in queue, wiping in dungeons because your tank is ungeared and clueless, waiting for AFKers to come back, arguing with the healer trying to spiritbond in all crafting gear, explaining fights to new DPS, downtime between runs, all that time can be spent doing other things. If you have limited playtime then it absolutely makes sense to pay a little bit to a geared tank to help run you through dungeons. Should you have friends in an MMO that help you? Of course. Will they always be there? Probably not.
We certainly do NOT need these "omg dps queues are longer than tank queues" posts popping up every week.
Last edited by Archona; 12-04-2013 at 02:00 AM.

Well ask yourself this how many tanks and healers do you see or know in your world/server compared to people playing dps? There will always be more dps bc most people feel like dps is more fun to play. This is why. Simple.
Also the new DF roullette will solve alot of these issues in patch 2.1. As more people will be queuing for their daily bonus.
Last edited by Techro; 12-04-2013 at 01:49 AM. Reason: more info


... and answers being repeated over and over again. Hope everyone gets it.
Case closed. lol
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