Should T3 Limit Break Remove Weakness?

[Frantz]

It bothers me to think that in the extremely, extremely rare event where a healer is required to use a T3 LB to raise the party, everyone comes up having Weakness. To me, in a situation where the whole raid is dead and needs to get up to continue the fight, having Weakness makes the raise almost (I emphasize the word "almost") useless. I've been told before that such a statement is pretty extreme because Weakness really isn't that much of a big deal, but in a fight like Titan HM or harder? I don't know...having Weakness would get you knocked out pretty damn fast.

[Popiko]

There are 2 problems I see with the healer LB3:

1. Raise animation. If there are enough AoEs to kill most of the team, not many people will survive the raise (including the caster).

2. Weakness. If you're starting with an HP and MP penalty, the team is almost better off just wiping and trying again. The healers will already be low on mana, assuming everyone makes it through the 3 second or so raise animation unscathed.

It's such a niche LB and I feel like it's supposed to be a second chance for when a team wipes, but most of the time this is what happens: Healer/Bard uses LB3. The team raises. Some or all team mates die to the raise animation. Team circles the drain due to lack of heals and DPS, especially for DPS check boss mechanics (see: Garuda sisters, Titan heart). Wipe.

[Frantz]

Exactly why I think T3 LB shouldn't have Weakness attached to it. Way too niche and situational to have such a draw-back. I could only ever see it used in a situation where you have such a small percentage of health on the boss left that the Weakness wouldn't even mean much. But that makes it even MORE situational.

[ApolloGenX]

I don't care about weakness, but the animation has to go.

Several times I have LB3d, rezzed the entire raid, but died because I was sitting around praying and got hit by an AoE. Went from 1 Alive 7 dead... to 7 alive 1 dead. Yay.

The raise animation is just awful all around.

[Frantz]

I don't care about weakness, but the animation has to go.

Several times I have LB3d, rezzed the entire raid, but died because I was sitting around praying and got hit by an AoE. Went from 1 Alive 7 dead... to 7 alive 1 dead. Yay.

The raise animation is just awful all around.

The same could almost be said for the T2, though, considering how you spend an extra 5 seconds spinning around with sparkly jazz hands after you do the heal.

[ApolloGenX]

The same could almost be said for the T2, though, considering how you spend an extra 5 seconds spinning around with sparkly jazz hands after you do the heal.

Sparkly jazz hands of DOOM!

(But at least it doesn't stun you AND everyone else.... /GAG)

/jazzhands!

[dontcare]

Several times I have LB3d, rezzed the entire raid, but died because I was sitting around praying and got hit by an AoE. Went from 1 Alive 7 dead... to 7 alive 1 dead. Yay.

All bosses in this game follow a pattern, if you or anyone else got hit by an AoE from animation lock it's for no other reason than bad timing on your part.

I do not think Weakness should be removed, nor should the animations be changed because I am not comfortable with having a 100% reliable raid-wide 'reset' button when things go bad. It trivializes mistakes, and will surely be used to exploit mechanics down the road.

[ApolloGenX]

All bosses in this game follow a pattern, if you or anyone else got hit by an AoE from animation lock it's for no other reason than bad timing on your part.

Yes, a pattern- A pattern that when followed allowed me to rezz 7 other people safetly- but the pattern didn't allow 10 + Seconds of safety to the ENTIRE battlefield. People die spread out sometimes. When that happens, there isn't going to be complete safety on the entire field- which means someone WILL die. Unless you happen to need the LB 3 before a phase change or some other type of clear battlefield respite.

Anyway- typical l2p response.

[Estellios]

I think all the Healer LB's should remove status effects so there is at least a point to the tier 1 even existing.

[Frantz]

Seems like the more we discuss this, the more the focus turns to healer limit breaks just not being as necessary as the DPS ones. :P Although I feel like tanks use them even less than healers. However I could have just been partying with the wrong people.

Either way having them remove status effects would be cool, too. I agree.