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    Tenku's Avatar
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    Tenku Kibo
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50

    Extremely disappointed in my Dragoon after attempting T4

    Did Turn 4 today and it finally flipped me over to the side that complains that Dragoons suck.

    Gears on my Dragoon: Relic+1, DL Helm, AF+1 Chest, DL Hands, Allagan Pants, AF+1 Boots, Allagan Earrings, Allagan Neck, DL Bracelet, AK Ring, DL Ring

    Gears on my Bard: Relic, Toxote everything on left side, Toxote earrings, Toxote Neck, Toxote Ring, DL Ring, DL dragoon bracelet.

    Parse on Dreadnaught:

    Dragoon = 234 (Perfect 27 hit rotation) Bard = 230

    So, my Dragoon nearly has all best in slot gears while my bard doesn't even have DL, yet my Bard can almost do the same damage as my Dragoon.
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    if it makes you feel any better i can't even use my class' form of mitigation on the clockwork knight/soldier(s)
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    Kyotsuke Mashuzu
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    You do realize parsing is extremely inaccurate right?
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    Riyo Ke
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    I have to imagine that your BRD isn't doing that damage in Turn 4. would probably miss half your attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyo View Post
    I have to imagine that your BRD isn't doing that damage in Turn 4. would probably miss half your attacks.
    The gears on Bards have all DEX and your attributes are all DEX which adds to accuracy. I am accuracy capped with those gears on bard for T4.

    The PUG we brought ran the parse multiple times. Our BLM ran a different parse multiple times. They were consistent.

    We were also able to get the Dreadnaught down in the same amount of time on my BRD compared to my DRG.

    The parse is correct.
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    S'mikomi Akane
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    The gears on Bards have all DEX and your attributes are all DEX which adds to accuracy. I am accuracy capped with those gears on bard for T4.

    The PUG we brought ran the parse multiple times. Our BLM ran a different parse multiple times. They were consistent.

    We were also able to get the Dreadnaught down in the same amount of time on my BRD compared to my DRG.

    The parse is correct.
    Until actual add ons for the game can be made parsing is still not 100% accurate.
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    Player
    Tenku's Avatar
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    Tenku Kibo
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RavenL View Post
    Until actual add ons for the game can be made parsing is still not 100% accurate.
    It might not be 100% accurate, but my Bard in terrible gears still helped our team down the Dreadnaught in the same amount of time as my Dragoon in very good gears.
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    The gears on Bards have all DEX and your attributes are all DEX which adds to accuracy. I am accuracy capped with those gears on bard for T4.
    Uhh wut? Dexterity does not affect your accuracy in the slightest, I can guarantee you are not anywhere near accuracy capped for turn 4 with toxotes gear. Also wtf are you using a dragoon bracelet on a bard? str does nothing for this class and you could find a level 40 dex bracelet on the ah that would be better than that for only several thousand.

    I can also guarantee you are doing nowhere near those numbers with tox and relic wep. People were barely pushing 200 dps with darklight and an ilvl 70 wep and yet you expect people to believe you're pushing 230+ with relic and ilvl 60 gear where you have gimped accuracy? The parser was way off or you just suck at dragoon if you expect people to believe that a geared dragoon is getting beat out by a gimp geared bard. If you're getting beat out as a dragoon by a gimped bard then it's not the class that needs work, it's you.
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    The gears on Bards have all DEX and your attributes are all DEX which adds to accuracy. I am accuracy capped with those gears on bard for T4.
    Read the stat description on dex and come again.
    It adds to ranged DAMAGE and Parry/block, it does not add any Accuracy.

    Edit: Ack someone beat me to it, didn't expect this thread to get so many replies in such a short time. D:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayasee View Post
    I bet you use Fracture too.
    There is actually nothing wrong with using fracture while your buffs are on. Other than that it's a TP dump I agree.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 11-25-2013 at 02:26 PM.

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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    The gears on Bards have all DEX and your attributes are all DEX which adds to accuracy. I am accuracy capped with those gears on bard for T4.

    The PUG we brought ran the parse multiple times. Our BLM ran a different parse multiple times. They were consistent.

    We were also able to get the Dreadnaught down in the same amount of time on my BRD compared to my DRG.

    The parse is correct.
    dex attribute does not contribute to accuracy, it only contribute to your attack power for range classes (in this case BRD). Accuracy is an entirely independent attribute which is shared by both melee and casters. you need about 470 accuracy for turn 4 to achieve 100% hit rate.

    side note: Dex also contribute to block rate

    http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Attributes
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    Last edited by Dano; 11-25-2013 at 02:30 PM.

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