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  1. #11
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    CUTS3R's Avatar
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    Even worse for people who are not targeting the boss. They don't see the cast bar period.
    Quote Originally Posted by vpc View Post
    maybe they should learn to focus target

    Did anybody say PS3 healers ?

    No ? Because im one of em and im ( obviously ) not targeting bosses most of time and we dont have a Focus target feature here on PS3.

    Some kind of extra pop up window similar to our own cast bar displaying boss/adds cast bars even when not targeted would help. ( not that i really need it but still )
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 11-25-2013 at 11:35 AM.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billie21 View Post
    Aren't you contradicting yourself? Reaction time first, then anticipation.
    What the OP offers is no different than knowing the fight by heart and *anticipate* because you already know what's coming. It simply gets rid of the "learning by heart" phase, by giving you a warning.
    Doesn't mean I'd like to see this specific feature ingame, though.

    2.1 was officially announced to have an increase (of what magnitude, we don't know) in server position checks for endgame dungeons and PVP. It's not a fix, but an emergency bandaid that will hopefully be efficient enough.
    I can anticipate that Titan will throw down a Landslide in my face, or in someone else's face. I can anticipate the Weights, but if i don't react when its under me, I'm done.
    Knowing is research. Reacting is the challenge.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    What you're asking for is DBM from WoW. Which turned everything easy mode
    So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

    It's easier to just say "I heard about this thing called DBM, but I haven't actually done endgame or used it", ya know.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!
    Haha. Agreed!
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    “Focus on the journey, not the destination.
    Joy is found not in finishing an activity but in doing it.”

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

    It's easier to just say "I heard about this thing called DBM, but I haven't actually done endgame or used it", ya know.
    Because i never played WoW from vanilla. Nope, never happened. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Those Heroic Mode raids in WoW are designed to not allow the slightest screwup. miss a mechanic, or let someone die, and game over. There are still people who fail on Heroic Lich King.

    I raided heavily in WoW right up to and including Cataclysm. All Raiding guilds had a flat requirement that you install DBM or you were not coming. Period. Even when PuGing people in Trade, No DBM or Omen, no Raid.

    My original point, which you failed to quote, is that if you take DBM from these players, they start to fail at things they were clearing. This isnt true of every player ever, but is true for the vast majority of them. Do you know how many times i heard "Crap my DBM bugged out" as an excuse to getting killed in Black Temple?
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Because i never played WoW from vanilla. Nope, never happened. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Those Heroic Mode raids in WoW are designed to not allow the slightest screwup. miss a mechanic, or let someone die, and game over. There are still people who fail on Heroic Lich King.

    I raided heavily in WoW right up to and including Cataclysm. All Raiding guilds had a flat requirement that you install DBM or you were not coming. Period. Even when PuGing people in Trade, No DBM or Omen, no Raid.

    My original point, which you failed to quote, is that if you take DBM from these players, they start to fail at things they were clearing. This isnt true of every player ever, but is true for the vast majority of them. Do you know how many times i heard "Crap my DBM bugged out" as an excuse to getting killed in Black Temple?
    That's true to some extent, because they loose something they got used to; but if they're good they would adapt pretty quickly as they know the mechanics. As for the mandatory use, as I said above it's just not smart to force it on someone who performs OK without and doesn't want to use it. On the contrary, if a person fails constantly because they don't want to use DBM, that's their fault, and it's not cool for the other players in the group.

    But it's not easy mode, seriously, it makes easy fights trivial, and it helps a bit on hard encounters—and if it didn't exist, the raid leaders would just put a timer and warn people all the same. It just facilitates communication and raid leading in my experience, more than changing the overall difficulty of the fight. Which is good because raid leading is a responsibility that falls on the shoulder of one, or a few individuals, and that's a deterrent for players (burden of the officers etc.)

    So to me DBM is more like "easier raid-leading" than "easy fight difficulty".
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    “Focus on the journey, not the destination.
    Joy is found not in finishing an activity but in doing it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

    It's easier to just say "I heard about this thing called DBM, but I haven't actually done endgame or used it", ya know.
    That's because of short enrage timers, punishing mechanics (one people mess up = wipe), nonsense mechanics (which makes studying a boss feel like you're taking a test) and huge gear checks. There was no other way for Blizzard to make challenging content.

    I'd rather not see that here. I like my Final Fantasy XIV being fun.
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  8. #18
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    The game won't die if they don't fix it. What will happen is everyone who has this problem will stop playing, then we'll be left with all the players in Japan and all the players within 900 miles of montreal on good computers/internet. Everyone else got the short end of the stick.
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