Would this save the future!

[Reiterpallasch]

What you're asking for is DBM from WoW. Which turned everything easy mode

So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

It's easier to just say "I heard about this thing called DBM, but I haven't actually done endgame or used it", ya know.

[Alcyon_Densetsu]

So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

Haha. Agreed!

[Sylve]

So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

It's easier to just say "I heard about this thing called DBM, but I haven't actually done endgame or used it", ya know.

Because i never played WoW from vanilla. Nope, never happened. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Those Heroic Mode raids in WoW are designed to not allow the slightest screwup. miss a mechanic, or let someone die, and game over. There are still people who fail on Heroic Lich King.

I raided heavily in WoW right up to and including Cataclysm. All Raiding guilds had a flat requirement that you install DBM or you were not coming. Period. Even when PuGing people in Trade, No DBM or Omen, no Raid.

My original point, which you failed to quote, is that if you take DBM from these players, they start to fail at things they were clearing. This isnt true of every player ever, but is true for the vast majority of them. Do you know how many times i heard "Crap my DBM bugged out" as an excuse to getting killed in Black Temple?

[Alcyon_Densetsu]

Because i never played WoW from vanilla. Nope, never happened. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Those Heroic Mode raids in WoW are designed to not allow the slightest screwup. miss a mechanic, or let someone die, and game over. There are still people who fail on Heroic Lich King.

I raided heavily in WoW right up to and including Cataclysm. All Raiding guilds had a flat requirement that you install DBM or you were not coming. Period. Even when PuGing people in Trade, No DBM or Omen, no Raid.

My original point, which you failed to quote, is that if you take DBM from these players, they start to fail at things they were clearing. This isnt true of every player ever, but is true for the vast majority of them. Do you know how many times i heard "Crap my DBM bugged out" as an excuse to getting killed in Black Temple?

That's true to some extent, because they loose something they got used to; but if they're good they would adapt pretty quickly as they know the mechanics. As for the mandatory use, as I said above it's just not smart to force it on someone who performs OK without and doesn't want to use it. On the contrary, if a person fails constantly because they don't want to use DBM, that's their fault, and it's not cool for the other players in the group.

But it's not easy mode, seriously, it makes easy fights trivial, and it helps a bit on hard encounters—and if it didn't exist, the raid leaders would just put a timer and warn people all the same. It just facilitates communication and raid leading in my experience, more than changing the overall difficulty of the fight. Which is good because raid leading is a responsibility that falls on the shoulder of one, or a few individuals, and that's a deterrent for players (burden of the officers etc.)

So to me DBM is more like "easier raid-leading" than "easy fight difficulty".

[Ri_ri]

So easy mode in fact, that it still takes world class players hundreds upon hundreds of pulls/wipes to down some heroic bosses!

It's easier to just say "I heard about this thing called DBM, but I haven't actually done endgame or used it", ya know.

That's because of short enrage timers, punishing mechanics (one people mess up = wipe), nonsense mechanics (which makes studying a boss feel like you're taking a test) and huge gear checks. There was no other way for Blizzard to make challenging content.

I'd rather not see that here. I like my Final Fantasy XIV being fun.

[Twiddle]

Well while i know this is not a fix, but a work around. Unless SE decides to focus on strategy over speed, which i do no see happening. Every corner they turn it's faster and faster combat which the current servers can not handle. I do not see how they think the game will evolve. As is speaking of my self, I frequently take dmg, by moves which on my screen i am out of, for a quarter to half a second. When the Ex modes come around with faster and harder attacks, the issue will multiply. Should i simply hang up my sword and shield and become the fishing hermit?!

[Ri_ri]

We need more like Garuda and less like Titan.

[Ryios]

The game won't die if they don't fix it. What will happen is everyone who has this problem will stop playing, then we'll be left with all the players in Japan and all the players within 900 miles of montreal on good computers/internet. Everyone else got the short end of the stick.