Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
So it's less about FATEs and more about a change to big bosses like Odin and Behemoth?
As long as the most efficient way to level is to spam fates then fate content is trivialized.

As long as the only rewards for NMs is the same as the rewards for every other fate NMs are trivialized.

As long as HNMs provide no tangible challenge or reward HNMs are trivialized.

Since all of the above fall under fate the whole of the fate experience is trivial.

This isn't just about Odin and Behemoth.

It's about a failure in general for fates to provide a meaningful gaming experience.

As I said in an earlier post, I really don't see SE ditching fates. Too much of the game is built around them. But they need to make fates better. Part of that will happen when people can experience Odin and behemoth without the servers imploding, or when everyone participating can see all of the fate mobs. Or when there are viable alternatives to fate grinding for experience so that fates aren't inundated with mobs of people more interested in maximizing exp gains than experiencing the actual content of the fates. And when that content itself is worth experiencing as content rather than as a vehicle for quick exp.