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    Keyblade's Avatar
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    Keyblade Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Why wouldnt i lie. IF i get into coil by lying then thats great. Id like to see the 7 other ppl qq just cause im new.
    Especially if ive gone DPS i should be able to get carried and learn the fight or at least fail and get experiance.
    Groups saying experiance only deserve ata least 1 new person. How else is anyone going to get a go in coil.
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    Cadwgan's Avatar
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    Vala Cadogan
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Why wouldnt i lie. IF i get into coil by lying then thats great. Id like to see the 7 other ppl qq just cause im new.
    Especially if ive gone DPS i should be able to get carried and learn the fight or at least fail and get experiance.
    Groups saying experiance only deserve ata least 1 new person. How else is anyone going to get a go in coil.
    For the love of all that is holy don't do this, do some research and start a practice group or something but please don't tell a group you know what you're going then prove otherwise. Experienced players don't "owe" new players a spot in their raiding groups, but saying that there are a lot of well geared and experienced players that are more than willing to at least give some advice.

    I have no issues taking newer players into coils in groups I'm with as long as we're aware of this from the start, people have to learn somewhere, but there's nothing more infuriating than someone who refuses to let us know beforehand they may need advice or information on bosses and mechanics.
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    Last edited by Cadwgan; 11-25-2013 at 07:18 AM. Reason: 1000char, cleaned up

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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Why wouldnt i lie. IF i get into coil by lying then thats great. Id like to see the 7 other ppl qq just cause im new.
    Especially if ive gone DPS i should be able to get carried and learn the fight or at least fail and get experiance.
    Groups saying experiance only deserve ata least 1 new person. How else is anyone going to get a go in coil.
    The same way those experienced players did. By making a group and going in. Not by lying to other experienced players, which early on there were none. They made their own groups. They put in the time and effort, and they can choose if they want experienced players or not. You don't get to make that decision for them.
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Woah... I'm agreeing with Keyblade. What magick is this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    The same way those experienced players did. By making a group and going in. Not by lying to other experienced players, which early on there were none. They made their own groups. They put in the time and effort, and they can choose if they want experienced players or not. You don't get to make that decision for them.
    It's too easy to "form your own group" when most of the community is new at it.
    Just like it's so easy to ask for "experienced onry" after you had the opportunity of seeing it.

    Then again, "easy" is the key word for modern MMORPG players... "easy" and "fast".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Woah... I'm agreeing with Keyblade. What magick is this.



    It's too easy to "form your own group" when most of the community is new at it.
    Just like it's so easy to ask for "experienced onry" after you had the opportunity of seeing it.

    Then again, "easy" is the key word for modern MMORPG players... "easy" and "fast".
    You still don't get to make the decision for them. The problem here, people are asking for experienced players. Ok, nothing really special there. The problem comes when someone comes in and says they are, when they're not. They're FORCING their choice of coming inexperienced to a group that is requesting experienced. You are forcing your decision. And in something that's not DF accessible, this can easily lead to hitting a blacklist. I already know people on our server that are making one. Easy, difficult, doesn't matter. The problem is you feel your decision to barge in is more important than 7 other people's decision to want someone experienced. You are wrong, period.
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    Ayase Natsume
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Why wouldnt i lie. IF i get into coil by lying then thats great. Id like to see the 7 other ppl qq just cause im new.
    Especially if ive gone DPS i should be able to get carried and learn the fight or at least fail and get experiance.
    Groups saying experiance only deserve ata least 1 new person. How else is anyone going to get a go in coil.
    Move along, nothing to see here but cancer.
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