Stop lying to your groups

[Nullie]

I agree people shouldn't lie. That being said, why don't you play with people who you've had experience with before. If you don't want that happening then play with people who you know won't do things like that to you.

Anytime I join a pug, I am cautious of everyone. I don't automatically assume just because they say they are that they indeed really are. I've played with people who are great players and just have bad days, but I know they can do it. That day might be theirs. You might have had one of those bad days. I've had them before. There are also times when people have different strategies or do things another way. Like ADS T2. I've beat ADS with my statics way, but I'm not sure if I were to pug it, how they would do things. It helps for me to expect errors to happen regardless then to assume everyone knows their job and what they do.

For some reason, anytime I see "Pro Tip" it bothers me.

[Ryel]

I agree people shouldn't lie. That being said, why don't you play with people who you've had experience with before. If you don't want that happening then play with people who you know won't do things like that to you.

Anytime I join a pug, I am cautious of everyone. I don't automatically assume just because they say they are that they indeed really are. I've played with people who are great players and just have bad days, but I know they can do it. That day might be theirs. You might have had one of those bad days. I've had them before. There are also times when people have different strategies or do things another way. Like ADS T2. I've beat ADS with my statics way, but I'm not sure if I were to pug it, how they would do things. It helps for me to expect errors to happen regardless then to assume everyone knows their job and what they do.

For some reason, anytime I see "Pro Tip" it bothers me.

Actually i do, most anything i do progression-wise I'll mostly do with friends or the FC I'm in simply because those are people i know and like to play with, however i do also like to queue into the DF to help out on things or to have some fun with pickups, i just hate to see people turning perfectly good setups and winnable runs on their head and wipe for about an hour before they finally speak up and say "Sorry I haven't done this before" I wont even need the win but I'll feel bad for the people who do because they were essentially robbed of a fighting chance.

[Nullie]

Actually i do, most anything i do progression-wise I'll mostly do with friends or the FC I'm in simply because those are people i know and like to play with, however i do also like to queue into the DF to help out on things or to have some fun with pickups, i just hate to see people turning perfectly good setups and winnable runs on their head and wipe for about an hour before they finally speak up and say "Sorry I haven't done this before" I wont even need the win but I'll feel bad for the people who do because they were essentially robbed of a fighting chance.

I understand your point better with this post. I do the same. I like to play with pugs as well or help random people out. Hydra/Chimera/Titan. When I play with the groups though, I just expect bad things to happen and I try to adjust or prepare. It might be the fact that I play a healer and I'm always watching what my party does or expect for things to go completely wrong at any given moment. I don't however believe people who screw things up are always making it up that they are inexperienced. Sometimes I tell people to take a deep breath and to calm down. It does help as well. We are all humans and there will be times when errors happen.

On a related note, we have plenty of access to guides and videos of things. I really think people should at least watch a video and learn your role in the fight. It is better than running blind in and hoping everything goes correctly.

[Cobayn]

I tell people if I'm new and I've yet to encounter someone not willing to give me at least a quick rundown. For the same reason you stated: I don't want to be dead weight to the team. I hate the thought of being carried. I wouldn't learn anything AND I wouldn't be able to teach anyone else when it's my turn to give the rundown.

The reason a lot of people lie about knowing a dungeon is the stigma that's attached to not knowing something. In life in general. As if it was the biggest crime you could commit. Knowledge is not innate, we all gotta learn something at some point. But others can give you a hard time about it. You're a noob, a rookie, a greenhorn...

Shame cause spending 1-2 minutes explaining will save you a lot of time overall. If you think about it, every time you explain a run to someone, that person will in turn be able to explain it to others who will themselves be able to do the same. Snowball effect. You end up less likely to meet people who don't know. And it could be because you took time to explain it to one particular person.

If you don't care to explain, if you don't care to learn, well, pay for it.

To me that's a given.


EDIT: Yknow, I realised I kinda pointed the finger at those who already know, but won't share. That still stands, but I'd like to add that if you don't go on the interwebs and look for guides to AT LEAST get SOME idea of what you're getting yourself into, you're just as bad. Again a little work on both sides saves a lot of troubles.